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this hope radio for the masses Atlanta

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between July 8 1947 your honor

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for three-person ops on applying this

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has been found and is now in the

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possession of the RA the game is rigged

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changed the game changer I occasionally

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think how quickly our differences

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worldwide would vanish if we were facing

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network and K GRA

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I need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fade to black with

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Jimmy judge on the game changing Network

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today's Tuesday January 14th 2020 14

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days into the new year only 352 days

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we are live from a bunker a bunker that

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is somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown Burbank California and I would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world all across the United

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States hither and thither to and fro

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back and forth up and down east and west

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north and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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planets our Merrill semi church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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I mean you see what's going on right you

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now if you're wondering what everybody

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is looking at you got to go to Jim

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eaters ready to go calm you got to

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become a member you got to become an

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official fate or not and when you do

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that to get the bunker cam

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that's right become a game changer you

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get the bunker cam and you can see my

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Eddie Van Halen shoes how cool I mean

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seriously right I got the matching shirt

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too I was gonna wear tonight Reid is

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like you know that's a bit much so you

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know I'm not even allowed to wear it in

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public

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I can I can wear it to bed so there you

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at that those are the official Eddie Van

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Halen shoes how cool is that and just so

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everybody can see it but you got to get

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they make me so happy they make me so

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they're so cool I mean those those those

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are over the top those are all Kevin

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you're the best man thank you for doing

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right we got a busy show tonight Scott

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Wolter is here host of America on earth

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not only one of our favorite guests here

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but a serious pillar of knowledge and

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and somebody that will never stop

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rolling that rock uphill for us for this

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community for the world and lots of

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stuff you know Scott always guarantees

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the big reveal all right there's

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something that is going to burst out

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here on fade to black

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well tonight we're gonna discuss our

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hidden in loss history and all of his

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latest research and possibly stuff that

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is going to be revealed

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20:20 scott is of course the host of

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America under oath and has been

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president of the American petrographic

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services since 1990 Scott is responsible

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for the independent petrographic

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analysis testing laboratory where the

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Kensington Runestone was brought for

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investigation back in the year 2000 he

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has been the principal pet ah Brett I

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did it again Scott Scott I did it again

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I did it again the principal pat pat try

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grow but say it but topographer

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you made that word up it's a made-up

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word in more than 5,000 investigations

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following the attacks of September 11

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2001 his websites are the hooked XCOM

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and Scott Wolter answers dot blogspot

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and the links are over at Jimmy Church

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radio welcome back Scott how are you I'm

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doing great Jimmy it's always good to

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sit down and chat with you and I think

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always do tonight yeah we do

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and our next event is coming up February

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7th through the 10th 2020 right here in

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life Expo and your your your going west

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young man you're going to come out and

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join us it's going to be a great event

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and on Friday night for the keynote

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event on Friday our ancient secrets

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panel you're going to be one of the

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featured panelists and get ready man

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Hollywood is waiting for Scott Wolter

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well Scott Wolter is going to be ready

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it's going to be fun and we're gonna

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drop some bombs some historical bombs

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with the new research that we're working

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the last couple years things have been

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breakneck pace but it's just amazing

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stuff and it just keeps getting better

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but the bottom line is is that this

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dori that we have been working on about

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first centuries prior to Chris who did

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not did not set foot on the continent

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but they were coming here for centuries

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obligation to our founding fathers who

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we don't know everything that we thought

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we did about those guys either but they

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handed the obligation on to them and

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they finished the job and we're living

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in it right here well before we get

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started we've got so much to talk about

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tonight but I don't want to let this get

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away from me what happened to your

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Vikings what happened Wow I know really

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heard I know it doesn't it does not man

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you guys had a great season but but what

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happened well we did and you know I'm a

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season ticket holder so I'm at every

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home game and you know I've been a

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long-suffering viking fan and believe it

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or not for those that are old enough to

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Grant I was just over at his house a

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him about the Vikings over the years and

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them to break our hearts although one of

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these years but this year Jim to be

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Kurt cousins but he's a very accurate

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passer when he has time and you know

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look they're good don't get me wrong and

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49ers yeah it's not - you know because I

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used to do a sports show and and and I

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don't do that anymore but it was a

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pretty interesting weekend of playoffs

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watched all four and the way I look you

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don't get there you don't get there if

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you don't have a good team it's a the

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thought that the Seahawks were going to

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pull that one out you know what they

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shouldn't have punted that last ball

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they had fourth down and you got to go

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for it man they only had like two

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minutes something like that there's no

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question Rogers the ball you're probably

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not gonna get it back no take your

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chances I thought that was a dum-dum

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call it was Carol we need to move on but

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say this you don't punt it away that's

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it the season is on the line that's it

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it's over if you don't if you don't make

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it you don't make it but you tried so

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before we move on some of my fondest

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memories of all of the NFL Fran

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Tarkenton that's it okay let's move on

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okay all right talked about Fran the

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other day bud told me a really good

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story about about him but I can't tell

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you because we're moving on okay let's

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move on that's so much to talk about but

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this when it comes to Scott Wolter does

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the research come to you and then you go

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or are you out there seeking the

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research and follow it what what happens

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how does it work in your world well

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that's a really great question and the

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answer is both sometimes well I'll give

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you an example just a couple of weeks

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ago somebody called me with something

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that was fantastic and I don't want to

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go into the details about this because

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it it is related to the Templar research

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but it's also related to other research

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I will tell you this it's it's related

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to the Knights of the Golden Circle

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and anyway I got a call from a guy and

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his story was so compelling and his

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photographs were so interesting to me

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that collectively he was able to talk me

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into jumping into my car and driving

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nine hours and meeting up with him and

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spending a day and a half with him and

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it was amazing that's all I'm going to

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say and that story is still developing

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and I can't say much more than that

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right now but it could be one of the

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biggest things I've ever worked on if it

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pans out and and and that's all I can

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say about that but then there's other

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times when I'm doing research that is

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connected to whatever and I just compel

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myself and say look because of this this

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and this I gotta go the best example I

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can give you it was when I was initially

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working on the Kensington Runestone I

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did my geological work I produced my

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findings I got criticized and attacked

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then I figured out that the first state

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geologist of Minnesota Newton Winchell

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had also done the same study that I did

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or actually I did the same study that he

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did and we both came to the same

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conclusion he did is 90 years before me

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I knew at that point that the stone was

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real and therefore everything in that

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inscription had to be real and that

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somebody carved it they came from

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someplace for some reason and based on

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all of that logic as I used to say as I

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like to say I decided that I had to go

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over to Sweden to investigate the ruins

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to dial up the grammar and all of that

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I went five times Jim over an over a

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period of two and a half years

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and all I can say is is it was a

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revelation not only did I find the stuff

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that I was looking for but I find stuff

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that I never expected and what what

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really is the lesson of that getting

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back to your original question is you

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don't find things by sitting around

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talking about it right if you develop a

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theory and you need to get information

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you got to go and I find that when I do

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go I usually find something even greater

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than I was hoping for and so it's both

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so it's a series it's a series of

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breadcrumbs right yeah and they

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constantly lay themselves out and one

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would suggest that this is your life's

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Mis mission the universe knows this and

296
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the synchronicities are laid out for you

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because of what you are working on you

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know what you're saying is more

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prophetic than you realize and I come to

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that realization and I gotta tell you

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I'm a science guy right hard evidence

302
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facts you know logic everything has to

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fit blah blah all that stuff but as I've

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gotten older and as I've really delved

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into this arena more and more I've come

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to learn that there are certain things

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that are going on that don't necessarily

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follow the laws of logic and scientific

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method there's this intuitive spiritual

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aspect to this stuff that to be quite

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frank with you I have never explored in

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my life prior to this but I had been

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forced to and at first it was really

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uncomfortable for me because it was so

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foreign but I'm getting more comfortable

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with it now and I gotta say I I think

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it's helping and if it is why would I

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not why would I not be open to it when

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we talk about the the history of of this

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continent and that that includes Canada

321
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you know the the United States and

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Central and South America this entire

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hemisphere

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when we talked about that it languished

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out there forever you know you have the

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Bering Strait and you have you know the

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the the ancient civilizations that

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started to populate here but by and

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large for the civilizations and cultures

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that were deep into the Mediterranean or

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Spain and Portugal and the United

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Kingdom this was the big mystery right

333
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this is what was over that horizon and

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I'm talking about the Year 1000 right

335
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what what is over the oceans but lately

336
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there's been a lot of chatter about the

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Azores and the possibility of not only

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pre-columbian but pre-everything and

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possibly Roman visitation to the Azores

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when that type of ship historically

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speaking didn't exist

342
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what do you think about that and are you

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interested maybe visit the islands and

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see what's going on well I'd be

345
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interested in visiting any Islands that

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have potential history to be uncovered I

347
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mean absolutely and you know the I think

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what's what's happening here and it's

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coming at a rapid pace is we're finding

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more evidence and more information that

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is consistent with what we've been

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saying for a long time but many cultures

353
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from all around the continent we're

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exploring much further than we ever

355
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thought they did and I'm not at all

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obviously I'm not at all surprised by

357
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that and I think that it's it's silly

358
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for people to try to put constraints on

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on people and on human cultures because

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you know just when you I mean it doesn't

361
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this happen all the time just when you

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think a team is down and they have no

363
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chance they rise up and they beat you

364
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and when you put down people and you say

365
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they can't do something that just

366
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motivates them to do it and exceed

367
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beyond what you thought they could do so

368
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I'm not surprised by any of this at all

369
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I would love to go and document as much

370
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as I can but to say that I was surprised

371
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I'm really not the

372
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the other part of of this which is not

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aliens but the other big a which attends

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to surface in this type of research is

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Atlantis and but when we're looking at

376
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like the Azores are the possibility it's

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called Atlantis for a reason and outside

378
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of the Straits of Gibraltar

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according to Plato that something could

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have been out there the sea levels and

381
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everything have changed over the years

382
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but there is that part of it but it's

383
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one thing to talk about the hook decks

384
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if you're on the fringe side of history

385
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but you start to get in to atlantis and

386
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dropping the big a that's when the

387
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controversies really start to surface

388
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are you willing to go there well yes the

389
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answer is hell yes

390
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I mean first off you know let's let's

391
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take a step back and and you know what

392
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is it Lantis right well some people

393
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think it's a place I don't think it's a

394
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place I think it's a culture a highly

395
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intelligent culture that existed before

396
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the so-called flood well what is the

397
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flood that we're talking about the flood

398
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is a worldwide universal story that all

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cultures have going back thousands of

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years that quite simply is just the the

401
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melting of the continental ice sheets

402
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that we know happen geologically my god

403
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a study glacial quaternary geology and

404
00:19:54,550 --> 00:19:51,830
college I know all about this happened

405
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you know 10 to 15 thousand years ago and

406
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we also know that something catastrophic

407
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happened some major worldwide event

408
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happened during about 12 5-12 thousand

409
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five hundred years ago that has been now

410
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called the Younger Dryas period now

411
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there's a couple of competing theories

412
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about what that catastrophic event might

413
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meant people like graham hancock adhere

414
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to the a large meteorite or comet impact

415
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that hit the northern hemisphere and

416
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triggered the massive disintegration of

417
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the of the ice sheets people like Robert

418
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Schoch was a geologist who I highly

419
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respect and I respect Graham too is

420
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:36,410
well but he thinks there were massive

421
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solar flares that caused you know

422
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:42,730
lightning strikes on the earth that

423
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produced vitrified glass all around the

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world at the same time and that would

425
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have triggered this massive ice sheet

426
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and I think they've had some competing

427
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theories but the other thing I said to

428
00:20:59,980 --> 00:20:56,720
both of them is why can't both be true

429
00:21:01,720 --> 00:20:59,990
and Rand Randall Carlson has also done a

430
00:21:04,810 --> 00:21:01,730
lot of really good work he's a brilliant

431
00:21:07,420 --> 00:21:04,820
guy but the point is something happened

432
00:21:09,850 --> 00:21:07,430
it caused the ice sheets to melt this

433
00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:09,860
trigger to rise a rapid rise in sea

434
00:21:14,380 --> 00:21:12,080
level of up to three to four hundred

435
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:14,390
feet and if you stop and think about it

436
00:21:18,550 --> 00:21:16,610
computer models raising sea level three

437
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:18,560
to four hundred feet it's going to

438
00:21:23,470 --> 00:21:21,410
displace you know cultures all around

439
00:21:25,570 --> 00:21:23,480
the world because most people in ancient

440
00:21:27,580 --> 00:21:25,580
times would live on the coastlines

441
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:27,590
because that's where the food is and you

442
00:21:31,780 --> 00:21:29,090
could imagine every one of those

443
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cultures is going to document this event

444
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:34,460
in a and and I I think what we're

445
00:21:40,750 --> 00:21:36,650
talking about is this mythological flood

446
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:40,760
story that they all experienced but it

447
00:21:47,530 --> 00:21:44,090
makes perfect sense to me and so who was

448
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:47,540
displaced well I think it was this this

449
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:50,480
culture that was interacting globally a

450
00:21:55,330 --> 00:21:53,450
lot more than anybody realized to the

451
00:21:58,540 --> 00:21:55,340
point where they were really a worldwide

452
00:22:02,080 --> 00:21:58,550
highly advanced culture that we have now

453
00:22:05,770 --> 00:22:02,090
labeled as the Atlanteans I think that's

454
00:22:06,790 --> 00:22:05,780
a really good working hypothesis for

455
00:22:08,830 --> 00:22:06,800
this whole thing

456
00:22:11,050 --> 00:22:08,840
I think it's probably true when it's all

457
00:22:13,900 --> 00:22:11,060
said and done I'll bet you a beer that's

458
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:13,910
what happens when you stand I cannot

459
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:15,770
help but do this and I do it every

460
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single time I'm at the beach right and I

461
00:22:24,730 --> 00:22:21,920
look out it doesn't matter the Atlantic

462
00:22:29,230 --> 00:22:24,740
the Pacific Ocean and and I'll look out

463
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and stand on the beach and imagine four

464
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hundred five hundred feet of water above

465
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where you are standing and then turn

466
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around and look into land and think

467
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about what is going to be covered just

468
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about with the naked eye right and

469
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thing yes you know so now Jim do this

470
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you're standing at that same spot right

471
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and imagine sea level dropping yes Rita

472
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400 feet what would you see that it's

473
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now water that would be exposed when

474
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:03,630
that water recedes you know what you

475
00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:07,650
would see about hundreds of thousands of

476
00:23:12,050 --> 00:23:10,440
ancient cultural sites that's what you

477
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:12,060
would see there's no question about it

478
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:14,400
there's some question about it and with

479
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:17,250
with technology the way it is today and

480
00:23:24,140 --> 00:23:20,130
I'm talking about sonar and the ability

481
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to map underneath the the surface of the

482
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ocean and you can go into Google Earth

483
00:23:30,410 --> 00:23:27,960
and see they've you know they've been

484
00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:30,420
laying this out for for quite a while

485
00:23:35,540 --> 00:23:32,910
it's not that accurate but you can see

486
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:35,550
things but with the technology that we

487
00:23:41,540 --> 00:23:38,850
have today you would think that this

488
00:23:44,540 --> 00:23:41,550
would be in a higher res detail and

489
00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:44,550
we'll get to that point but that is all

490
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:47,670
of the indian ocean floor all of the

491
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:49,530
pacific ocean all of the atlantic ocean

492
00:23:55,490 --> 00:23:52,170
the art there and go and see what's

493
00:23:58,970 --> 00:23:55,500
there which also includes the desert

494
00:24:02,420 --> 00:23:58,980
sands of northern Africa I can only

495
00:24:04,850 --> 00:24:02,430
imagine what is underneath all of that

496
00:24:09,050 --> 00:24:04,860
sand because the sand wasn't there not

497
00:24:10,970 --> 00:24:09,060
that long ago you know it was think

498
00:24:13,310 --> 00:24:10,980
about the Mediterranean Sea if you

499
00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:13,320
lowered sea level three to four hundred

500
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:16,260
feet imagine what's it what's in there

501
00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:18,690
you've had cultures that's probably been

502
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:21,470
one of the hot beds of human activity

503
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:23,970
you know for thousands of years in the

504
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:26,490
world what is under those waters can you

505
00:24:32,450 --> 00:24:29,730
imagine and and that's why this is for

506
00:24:35,390 --> 00:24:32,460
me one of the most exciting times to not

507
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:35,400
only have a the ability to host a show

508
00:24:39,140 --> 00:24:37,650
like this but to have researchers out

509
00:24:42,530 --> 00:24:39,150
there like yourself like Graham like

510
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:42,540
Randall and and Robert Schoch a you know

511
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:48,810
going out there you know Robert well to

512
00:24:53,090 --> 00:24:50,730
have researchers out there tipping

513
00:24:55,670 --> 00:24:53,100
things over and seeing what's underneath

514
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because we have the ability now to find

515
00:24:59,440 --> 00:24:57,049
these things out

516
00:25:01,930 --> 00:24:59,450
and just like we were just talking about

517
00:25:05,499 --> 00:25:01,940
things that are really old gobekli tepe

518
00:25:08,889 --> 00:25:05,509
right there right several thousand years

519
00:25:15,009 --> 00:25:08,899
yeah seven thousand years before Giza

520
00:25:16,180 --> 00:25:15,019
and now a few dozen miles away from

521
00:25:20,259 --> 00:25:16,190
gobekli tepe

522
00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:20,269
there's Bonn cuckoo Terra which is older

523
00:25:27,159 --> 00:25:24,049
than gobekli tepe when gobekli tepe

524
00:25:29,619 --> 00:25:27,169
wasn't supposed to exist right and and

525
00:25:31,419 --> 00:25:29,629
we're finding out more and more every

526
00:25:34,749 --> 00:25:31,429
single day I think this is truly the

527
00:25:38,919 --> 00:25:34,759
most exciting time in in history's lost

528
00:25:40,659 --> 00:25:38,929
history well I say the same thing all

529
00:25:42,190 --> 00:25:40,669
the time you know a lot of people look

530
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:42,200
back and say oh well all the cool things

531
00:25:47,229 --> 00:25:44,330
have been discovered there's nothing

532
00:25:49,330 --> 00:25:47,239
left to discover bs this is the most

533
00:25:52,180 --> 00:25:49,340
exciting time to be alive there's so

534
00:25:54,940 --> 00:25:52,190
much being uncovered in in part as you

535
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:54,950
said to new technology and you know I

536
00:25:59,349 --> 00:25:56,480
wanted to make a point about the new

537
00:26:02,049 --> 00:25:59,359
technology - I think we all have heard

538
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:02,059
and realized that you know the military

539
00:26:05,409 --> 00:26:03,529
stuff that we see today

540
00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:05,419
you know today that that that were

541
00:26:11,169 --> 00:26:08,840
knowledgeable about is is actually old

542
00:26:13,930 --> 00:26:11,179
technology I mean the stuff that we're

543
00:26:19,349 --> 00:26:13,940
seeing today actually was new technology

544
00:26:21,999 --> 00:26:19,359
in the military in 15-20 years ago so

545
00:26:23,349 --> 00:26:22,009
what's what what are they using now that

546
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:23,359
we're not going to hear about for

547
00:26:28,690 --> 00:26:26,480
another 10 - 15 20 years right and

548
00:26:31,479 --> 00:26:28,700
thinking about the technologies looking

549
00:26:33,070 --> 00:26:31,489
under the ocean Google Earth and how

550
00:26:35,139 --> 00:26:33,080
it's you know it's pretty damn good

551
00:26:37,810 --> 00:26:35,149
right now but imagine the technology

552
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:37,820
that does exist right now that we just

553
00:26:44,529 --> 00:26:40,369
don't have access to yet what about

554
00:26:47,159 --> 00:26:44,539
Antarctica oh my god you know what just

555
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:47,169
last night I had somebody send me a pole

556
00:26:52,509 --> 00:26:50,210
it was a satellite photograph and he

557
00:26:54,310 --> 00:26:52,519
said look the the the ice caps are

558
00:26:57,159 --> 00:26:54,320
melting away and here's the face of an

559
00:26:59,169 --> 00:26:57,169
alien and I looked at it and sure as

560
00:27:01,659 --> 00:26:59,179
hell it looked just like an alien face

561
00:27:04,389 --> 00:27:01,669
and then I zoomed in and zoomed in on

562
00:27:07,570 --> 00:27:04,399
detail and actually what it was is the

563
00:27:08,860 --> 00:27:07,580
way that the snow had you know piled up

564
00:27:10,659 --> 00:27:08,870
in the mountains there

565
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:10,669
I mean it was very convincing looking

566
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:13,250
face but it wasn't the bedrock it wasn't

567
00:27:19,169 --> 00:27:16,130
the melting melting snow it actually was

568
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:19,179
the snow but you know that being said

569
00:27:24,190 --> 00:27:22,159
not just in in Antarctica but what about

570
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:24,200
Greenland I mean there's all kinds of

571
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:26,690
things being exposed Mineral wise

572
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:29,690
there's some meteorite impacts that have

573
00:27:33,820 --> 00:27:31,370
been exposed since the ice has been

574
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:33,830
melting away in Greenland I mean can you

575
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:35,360
imagine what they're going to find down

576
00:27:40,330 --> 00:27:37,610
in Antarctica if you know global warming

577
00:27:43,419 --> 00:27:40,340
continues the way it is and assuming we

578
00:27:46,570 --> 00:27:43,429
survive it there's going to be all kinds

579
00:27:48,370 --> 00:27:46,580
of things found is it possible we're

580
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:48,380
going to be headed towards a break here

581
00:27:53,139 --> 00:27:49,130
in three minutes

582
00:27:56,860 --> 00:27:53,149
is it possible with the plate shifts and

583
00:28:00,269 --> 00:27:56,870
the Continental shifting the plate

584
00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:00,279
tectonics is that possible that

585
00:28:06,970 --> 00:28:03,039
Antarctica was in a different place that

586
00:28:10,060 --> 00:28:06,980
maybe that could even be Atlantis that

587
00:28:12,820 --> 00:28:10,070
that it moved to where it was from a

588
00:28:17,049 --> 00:28:12,830
more tropical area like you know where

589
00:28:20,830 --> 00:28:17,059
Australia sits today right well I guess

590
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:20,840
you will dancer excuse me I'm getting

591
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:23,570
over a cold so if I start you know HACC

592
00:28:27,970 --> 00:28:24,770
and that's what it is

593
00:28:32,260 --> 00:28:27,980
well first off do the continents shift

594
00:28:34,750 --> 00:28:32,270
due to plate tectonics well the answer

595
00:28:37,779 --> 00:28:34,760
is absolutely the problem with that is

596
00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:37,789
that it takes a long time and you know

597
00:28:43,060 --> 00:28:40,270
if you believe in the current models of

598
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:43,070
you know evolution and the development

599
00:28:48,430 --> 00:28:46,090
of plants and animals and humans when

600
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:48,440
Antarctica was connected to the other

601
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:51,200
continents humans hadn't evolved yet we

602
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:53,570
we didn't exist yet now that's going

603
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:55,039
with the current science as we

604
00:28:59,320 --> 00:28:57,440
understand it I happen to adhere to that

605
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,330
I don't know if anything's going to

606
00:29:03,940 --> 00:29:01,520
change that but I'm not going to you

607
00:29:06,010 --> 00:29:03,950
know I'm not going to put my anchor down

608
00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:06,020
and stone with that idea because you

609
00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:08,390
never know new new science may reveal

610
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:10,760
something else but based on what we know

611
00:29:14,889 --> 00:29:13,490
now that really doesn't make sense but

612
00:29:16,930 --> 00:29:14,899
that doesn't mean that there couldn't

613
00:29:19,389 --> 00:29:16,940
have been people living there in the

614
00:29:21,730 --> 00:29:19,399
past it just seems to me that there were

615
00:29:23,109 --> 00:29:21,740
other places on the continent and if

616
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:23,119
these Atlantis

617
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:25,970
if you will were as intelligent as we

618
00:29:29,889 --> 00:29:27,919
think they probably would have found

619
00:29:32,769 --> 00:29:29,899
some his somewhere a little more

620
00:29:33,129 --> 00:29:32,779
habitable to to hang out you know what I

621
00:29:37,479 --> 00:29:33,139
mean

622
00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:37,489
well if the if the the melt continues

623
00:29:43,899 --> 00:29:39,769
like it is and we know that they have

624
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:43,909
found signs of a tropical growth in

625
00:29:47,950 --> 00:29:46,159
Antarctica there's plenty of leaves on

626
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:47,960
trees and things that have been found on

627
00:29:54,820 --> 00:29:51,679
there but if they found evidence of like

628
00:29:57,879 --> 00:29:54,830
a campfire if they found evidence of a

629
00:30:00,639 --> 00:29:57,889
gobekli tepe down there would they

630
00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:00,649
release that would they speak about that

631
00:30:05,259 --> 00:30:03,590
an ancient civilization that predated

632
00:30:09,099 --> 00:30:05,269
everything or would they keep that

633
00:30:11,409 --> 00:30:09,109
hidden well the the the correct answer

634
00:30:13,539 --> 00:30:11,419
is ethically they should absolutely

635
00:30:16,139 --> 00:30:13,549
release it but that doesn't mean that

636
00:30:18,820 --> 00:30:16,149
they will right I mean the whole idea of

637
00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:18,830
extraterrestrials and in aliens and all

638
00:30:24,609 --> 00:30:22,399
of that is something that now they're

639
00:30:26,739 --> 00:30:24,619
starting to talk about and if they are

640
00:30:28,899 --> 00:30:26,749
starting to talk about it now that means

641
00:30:31,629 --> 00:30:28,909
they've known for a long time and let's

642
00:30:33,340 --> 00:30:31,639
just assume that that is true and I

643
00:30:35,649 --> 00:30:33,350
think the preponderance of evidence is

644
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:35,659
starting to go in that direction why did

645
00:30:40,509 --> 00:30:38,450
they keep it from us for so long so you

646
00:30:42,369 --> 00:30:40,519
you have to really go down that road and

647
00:30:44,169 --> 00:30:42,379
say what would be the reason what it was

648
00:30:46,690 --> 00:30:44,179
you know to protect people from

649
00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:46,700
themselves that we would all panic and

650
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:48,799
there'd be anarchy in the streets well

651
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:51,289
you know what I what I believe is that

652
00:30:57,220 --> 00:30:54,799
when there's bad news about something no

653
00:31:00,489 --> 00:30:57,230
matter how bad it is I mean you know

654
00:31:02,049 --> 00:31:00,499
people react strongly and emotionally

655
00:31:05,259 --> 00:31:02,059
and it's difficult depending on what

656
00:31:07,389 --> 00:31:05,269
that news is but after a while you know

657
00:31:09,389 --> 00:31:07,399
you pull up your bootstraps you suck it

658
00:31:13,060 --> 00:31:09,399
up and you have to keep moving right and

659
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:13,070
I think people would might be shocked at

660
00:31:18,129 --> 00:31:15,679
first but they would settle in pretty

661
00:31:19,389 --> 00:31:18,139
quick and get on with life so I don't

662
00:31:22,299 --> 00:31:19,399
think they have to protect us from

663
00:31:24,879 --> 00:31:22,309
anything just give us the truth and let

664
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:24,889
us handle it that's but that doesn't

665
00:31:30,970 --> 00:31:27,200
mean that they will our guest tonight is

666
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:30,980
Scott Wolter America on Earth I am your

667
00:31:35,180 --> 00:31:33,049
host Jimmy Church we'll be right back

668
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:35,190
after this short break on the game

669
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:38,910
changer Network and K GRA the planet he

670
00:31:50,780 --> 00:31:50,470
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671
00:32:06,100 --> 00:31:50,790
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00:32:11,950 --> 00:32:09,039
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683
00:32:44,409 --> 00:32:40,490
talk about a big reveal and and this is

684
00:32:48,460 --> 00:32:44,419
the thing when you tell me and and you

685
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:48,470
did when you say Jimmy Jimmy tonight

686
00:32:53,049 --> 00:32:51,110
tonight I'm gonna fly a mission tonight

687
00:32:56,409 --> 00:32:53,059
I'm gonna drop a bomb it's it tonight

688
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,419
and and I'm always excited about that so

689
00:33:00,100 --> 00:32:58,159
let's start there I can't wait to ask

690
00:33:03,549 --> 00:33:00,110
the questions but what are you working

691
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:03,559
on right now well actually I'm working

692
00:33:11,620 --> 00:33:07,490
on a number of things but the thing that

693
00:33:15,370 --> 00:33:11,630
has really come to the forefront is the

694
00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:15,380
Cremona document and it's you know this

695
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:18,070
is a copy

696
00:33:25,980 --> 00:33:21,769
probably a copy of a copy of a 12th

697
00:33:28,269 --> 00:33:25,990
century document that tells the story of

698
00:33:31,659 --> 00:33:28,279
treasure that was found by Knights

699
00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:31,669
Templar this the legendary story that

700
00:33:34,930 --> 00:33:33,710
we've all heard about of the Templars

701
00:33:38,169 --> 00:33:34,940
going under the Temple Mount in

702
00:33:38,620 --> 00:33:38,179
Jerusalem and finding of a fantastic

703
00:33:41,649 --> 00:33:38,630
treasure

704
00:33:44,259 --> 00:33:41,659
well this document chronicles that

705
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:44,269
discovery and part of what they

706
00:33:50,590 --> 00:33:47,090
discovered were Word documents from the

707
00:33:53,289 --> 00:33:50,600
first century that talked about other

708
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:53,299
documents from the first century that

709
00:33:59,019 --> 00:33:55,970
were sitting in a place called the land

710
00:34:02,259 --> 00:33:59,029
of on Theora which was North America in

711
00:34:04,810 --> 00:34:02,269
the first century so we're talking about

712
00:34:07,539 --> 00:34:04,820
in 1100 these documents were found that

713
00:34:09,730 --> 00:34:07,549
at that time were a thousand years old

714
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:09,740
talking about additional documents taken

715
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:14,690
to be hidden over here now the second

716
00:34:19,310 --> 00:34:16,609
part of the Cremona document which is a

717
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:19,320
come which is a compilation of Doc

718
00:34:24,860 --> 00:34:22,410
it's not just one document and the

719
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:24,870
second document is about six decades

720
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:28,530
older this chronicles a trip led by a

721
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:30,450
Templar Knight by the name of Ralph to

722
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:35,370
subtly who traveled to Denmark to get a

723
00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:38,490
woman named all tomara who was in the

724
00:34:45,620 --> 00:34:41,460
the Danish Kings Court who was a Knights

725
00:34:47,690 --> 00:34:45,630
Templar and disorderly had one of his

726
00:34:50,420 --> 00:34:47,700
Templar knights was required to marry

727
00:34:53,630 --> 00:34:50,430
her before she was allowed to leave and

728
00:34:56,450 --> 00:34:53,640
then she led them to North America to

729
00:34:58,370 --> 00:34:56,460
the temple of the goddess where these

730
00:35:00,680 --> 00:34:58,380
documents were hidden it was to Sutter

731
00:35:03,530 --> 00:35:00,690
Lee's mission to recover those first

732
00:35:06,110 --> 00:35:03,540
century documents hidden over here now

733
00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:06,120
the place where they were hidden was in

734
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:08,550
what we now call the Catskill Mountains

735
00:35:15,350 --> 00:35:12,690
and he did recover some of those

736
00:35:17,390 --> 00:35:15,360
documents not all of them then he

737
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:17,400
traveled south to the northern end of

738
00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:20,160
what is now Long Island winter Dover

739
00:35:26,810 --> 00:35:22,590
built a boat over the winter and then

740
00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:26,820
sailed back to Europe in 1180 this trip

741
00:35:30,770 --> 00:35:28,230
took three years total

742
00:35:32,660 --> 00:35:30,780
and then he reported to the Grand Master

743
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:32,670
of the Knights Templar at that time his

744
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:36,510
name was odin and he recorded his

745
00:35:42,410 --> 00:35:39,330
deposition was taken it was recorded and

746
00:35:44,330 --> 00:35:42,420
that is what the Cremona document is or

747
00:35:47,290 --> 00:35:44,340
at least those are the two main parts

748
00:35:51,710 --> 00:35:47,300
now other parts of the document include

749
00:35:54,770 --> 00:35:51,720
the documents that he recovered one of

750
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:54,780
those documents was the marriage

751
00:36:04,190 --> 00:35:59,760
document of yeshua ben yosef Jesus son

752
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:04,200
of Joseph to Miriam of has mo Nia or

753
00:36:10,610 --> 00:36:07,890
Mary Magdalene that document was so

754
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,620
important and so dangerous that it had

755
00:36:16,010 --> 00:36:13,440
to be hidden over here but he recovered

756
00:36:18,170 --> 00:36:16,020
that so we know all that stuff and I

757
00:36:20,450 --> 00:36:18,180
wrote about that in my book now the

758
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:20,460
other thing that you saw in the book if

759
00:36:27,260 --> 00:36:22,770
you if you get it you will see that the

760
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:27,270
Cremona document also includes maps one

761
00:36:32,660 --> 00:36:30,240
of those maps which is a very strange

762
00:36:35,329 --> 00:36:32,670
map of Nova Scotia and the

763
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:35,339
surrounding area at the mouth of the st.

764
00:36:43,849 --> 00:36:38,250
Lawrence River was used on the oak

765
00:36:45,710 --> 00:36:43,859
island show now we didn't really play it

766
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:45,720
up too long because the fact of the

767
00:36:50,839 --> 00:36:48,210
matter is Oak Island has nothing to do

768
00:36:53,020 --> 00:36:50,849
with the Cremona document story but it's

769
00:36:55,220 --> 00:36:53,030
a cool map and it's one of the four maps

770
00:36:57,470 --> 00:36:55,230
now one of the things that was really

771
00:36:59,809 --> 00:36:57,480
puzzling for a long time about these

772
00:37:02,030 --> 00:36:59,819
maps and these maps didn't come to my

773
00:37:05,329 --> 00:37:02,040
attention until about five or six years

774
00:37:07,819 --> 00:37:05,339
ago through my good friend Don Rue who

775
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:07,829
was the guy who was the best friend of a

776
00:37:12,620 --> 00:37:10,170
colleague in an organization that he

777
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:12,630
worked for who bought the Cremona

778
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:17,130
document back in 1971 and he vetted it

779
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:21,930
for several years and convinced himself

780
00:37:26,510 --> 00:37:23,760
by finding one of the shipwrecks and

781
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:26,520
finding the tomb of Alta Mara that this

782
00:37:32,660 --> 00:37:29,760
story was true and then he was going to

783
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:32,670
write a book about it and what happened

784
00:37:37,069 --> 00:37:35,250
was he went through the same turmoil

785
00:37:42,140 --> 00:37:37,079
that I'd been through and many other

786
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:42,150
people who dare to venture into the

787
00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:44,490
world of alternative history according

788
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:48,030
to the mainstream academia and he became

789
00:37:52,010 --> 00:37:49,920
so frustrated with the way that those

790
00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:52,020
academics treated him as he was just

791
00:37:56,990 --> 00:37:54,630
trying to get information and understand

792
00:37:59,180 --> 00:37:57,000
this document in the history within it

793
00:38:01,460 --> 00:37:59,190
that he said screw it I'm not even going

794
00:38:03,710 --> 00:38:01,470
to write this book so he decided he was

795
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:03,720
going to write a novel and he was well

796
00:38:09,140 --> 00:38:06,480
into that and then he found out that he

797
00:38:15,770 --> 00:38:09,150
was terminally ill so we sold the

798
00:38:18,140 --> 00:38:15,780
document to the Vatican now this this

799
00:38:20,030 --> 00:38:18,150
story is just amazing because the guy

800
00:38:23,539 --> 00:38:20,040
that he sold it to represented the

801
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:23,549
Vatican was a guy named Archbishop Paul

802
00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:26,250
Marcinkus and if people are googling

803
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:28,020
that name right now you're gonna find

804
00:38:35,450 --> 00:38:31,530
out that this was the bad guy of the

805
00:38:37,579 --> 00:38:35,460
Vatican I mean this was a guy who is it

806
00:38:41,210 --> 00:38:37,589
has been accused of killing Pope John

807
00:38:42,829 --> 00:38:41,220
Paul the first in 1978 by poisoning him

808
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:42,839
and the reason they think he did it is

809
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:44,609
because he was the only one that had a

810
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:46,410
key to the secret door

811
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:48,690
got into the Pope's chamber sleeping you

812
00:38:52,789 --> 00:38:50,730
know his sleeping chamber right anyway

813
00:38:55,339 --> 00:38:52,799
if you saw The Da Vinci Code

814
00:38:58,309 --> 00:38:55,349
remember the albino monk a really bad

815
00:39:00,740 --> 00:38:58,319
guy yeah in in The Da Vinci Code movie

816
00:39:03,289 --> 00:39:00,750
that character was patterned after Paul

817
00:39:08,779 --> 00:39:03,299
Marcinkus that's who Jackson sold the

818
00:39:12,250 --> 00:39:08,789
document to in 1994 what nobody knew

819
00:39:15,289 --> 00:39:12,260
until recently and Jackson died in 2000

820
00:39:18,140 --> 00:39:15,299
but he left this material to his good

821
00:39:20,359 --> 00:39:18,150
friend Don rue who's now my friend and

822
00:39:23,089 --> 00:39:20,369
I'm working very closely with him I have

823
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:23,099
for 13 years but what I've discovered

824
00:39:29,180 --> 00:39:25,650
with dimed is that there are bits and

825
00:39:32,690 --> 00:39:29,190
pieces of the Cremona document that bill

826
00:39:35,569 --> 00:39:32,700
disseminated to his colleagues after he

827
00:39:39,140 --> 00:39:35,579
sold the main document to the Vatican

828
00:39:42,049 --> 00:39:39,150
and those pieces that he parsed out to

829
00:39:45,020 --> 00:39:42,059
his friends were the most important

830
00:39:47,690 --> 00:39:45,030
pieces to the whole document the Vatican

831
00:39:50,299 --> 00:39:47,700
never got them which is amazing

832
00:39:53,089 --> 00:39:50,309
which included the cipher phrase that's

833
00:39:56,359 --> 00:39:53,099
mandatory for deciphering the Theban

834
00:39:58,010 --> 00:39:56,369
alphabet that is the way the document is

835
00:40:00,109 --> 00:39:58,020
written in this coded language that the

836
00:40:02,059 --> 00:40:00,119
Templars used it gets a little bit

837
00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:02,069
complicated but the point is this and

838
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:04,049
I'm all I'm getting to this new

839
00:40:10,430 --> 00:40:06,960
discovery is that over the years that

840
00:40:12,109 --> 00:40:10,440
I've known dad I'm a number of his

841
00:40:13,970 --> 00:40:12,119
colleagues that he worked with in this

842
00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:13,980
agency have passed away

843
00:40:24,049 --> 00:40:17,849
and their estates have left packages for

844
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:24,059
Don that contain the pages of the komono

845
00:40:33,220 --> 00:40:27,170
document that Jackson left to these guys

846
00:40:38,690 --> 00:40:33,230
now this March of this past March of

847
00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:38,700
1920 1919 2019 a guy by the name of John

848
00:40:44,089 --> 00:40:40,740
Drake one of one of Don's colleagues

849
00:40:47,150 --> 00:40:44,099
passed away John Drake had a walk-in

850
00:40:49,099 --> 00:40:47,160
safe in his house and his family

851
00:40:51,980 --> 00:40:49,109
couldn't get into it until August of

852
00:40:53,539 --> 00:40:51,990
this year when they finally got into it

853
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:53,549
there was a package in there that was

854
00:40:59,599 --> 00:40:56,970
for Don rule Don didn't get that package

855
00:41:00,140 --> 00:40:59,609
till October and there was a bunch of

856
00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:00,150
stuff

857
00:41:05,319 --> 00:41:02,220
including an envelope that was sealed

858
00:41:09,890 --> 00:41:05,329
that he didn't open until this December

859
00:41:12,650 --> 00:41:09,900
and when he opened it there were two

860
00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:12,660
pages from the Cremona document shut up

861
00:41:17,059 --> 00:41:14,910
wait a minute we have never seen wait

862
00:41:17,779 --> 00:41:17,069
stop stop stop stop stop stop right

863
00:41:21,470 --> 00:41:17,789
there

864
00:41:24,829 --> 00:41:21,480
pump the brakes when you say two pages

865
00:41:30,740 --> 00:41:24,839
from the Cremona document are we talking

866
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:30,750
about copies the document was probably

867
00:41:40,190 --> 00:41:35,520
copied by probably a freemason in the 80

868
00:41:42,650 --> 00:41:40,200
around 1860 okay this is typical for old

869
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:42,660
documents to be copied and recopied

870
00:41:48,170 --> 00:41:45,089
because they degrade over time the

871
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:48,180
Cistercians who were the monastery of

872
00:41:53,539 --> 00:41:51,089
white monks that the Knights Templar

873
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:53,549
were members of they were part of the

874
00:41:58,910 --> 00:41:56,400
Cistercian order they had rooms in every

875
00:42:00,680 --> 00:41:58,920
one of their monasteries were monks all

876
00:42:03,529 --> 00:42:00,690
day long all they did was copy

877
00:42:05,870 --> 00:42:03,539
manuscripts sure beautiful illuminated

878
00:42:07,460 --> 00:42:05,880
manuscripts sure and they would update

879
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:07,470
these and they would make multiple

880
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:09,930
copies so they would be preserved and

881
00:42:16,609 --> 00:42:12,450
this Cremona document is one of those

882
00:42:19,099 --> 00:42:16,619
secret documents that chronicles Templar

883
00:42:21,950 --> 00:42:19,109
voyages to America that the world has

884
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:21,960
never seen until now and it's freaking

885
00:42:29,029 --> 00:42:24,690
amazing what's in here okay these two

886
00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:29,039
pages yes we just got okay and ice the

887
00:42:35,299 --> 00:42:32,609
last month deciphering them along with

888
00:42:37,220 --> 00:42:35,309
Don and I think we now have it figured

889
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:37,230
out okay we're gonna come back to that

890
00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:41,609
in a second the original Cremona

891
00:42:45,380 --> 00:42:43,260
document I know I've asked you this

892
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:45,390
before but just for clarification for

893
00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:48,930
the for the audience does it exist today

894
00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:51,510
is it it that the Vatican who's got the

895
00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:55,500
original Cremona document I you know to

896
00:42:59,359 --> 00:42:56,910
be quite frank with you I think the

897
00:43:02,680 --> 00:42:59,369
original Cremona document that was

898
00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:02,690
written down in the 12th century is

899
00:43:08,299 --> 00:43:05,910
probably degraded and gone or its

900
00:43:11,930 --> 00:43:08,309
preserved somewhere in a secret archive

901
00:43:13,549 --> 00:43:11,940
most likely the Vatican right but the

902
00:43:14,450 --> 00:43:13,559
honest answer is I don't know it could

903
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:14,460
be in a monastery

904
00:43:18,290 --> 00:43:16,560
someplace we know this copy of the

905
00:43:22,010 --> 00:43:18,300
Cremona document that bill Jackson

906
00:43:24,050 --> 00:43:22,020
bought in 1971 was in Cremona Italy for

907
00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:24,060
a long time in a monastery there that's

908
00:43:28,070 --> 00:43:25,710
why we call it the Cremona document

909
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:28,080
right right right okay so let's go back

910
00:43:36,339 --> 00:43:33,690
okay so now in December envelope Jackson

911
00:43:38,990 --> 00:43:36,349
you guys you open it you've been

912
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:39,000
deciphering it and and translating it

913
00:43:43,730 --> 00:43:41,910
all right where we at what what have you

914
00:43:46,940 --> 00:43:43,740
found out let me back up for a sec

915
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:46,950
because how I got the document is almost

916
00:43:50,750 --> 00:43:49,200
as good as what's in the document and

917
00:43:52,450 --> 00:43:50,760
I'm not kidding you because you gotta

918
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:52,460
remember Don was part of an organization

919
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:55,410
and when I asked Don to tell people what

920
00:44:00,200 --> 00:43:58,170
he used to do for a living he said I

921
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:00,210
used to work for an organization that

922
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:03,599
did things with your tax dollars right

923
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:05,490
and that's all he would say right but I

924
00:44:10,609 --> 00:44:07,770
will tell you that what what Don did for

925
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:10,619
a living was the dirty work that we

926
00:44:17,630 --> 00:44:14,250
never hear about and those guys did some

927
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:17,640
really really good patriotic things that

928
00:44:22,460 --> 00:44:19,410
our government just doesn't tell us

929
00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:22,470
about and and just know this some of the

930
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:23,849
stuff that our government does I don't

931
00:44:28,130 --> 00:44:26,250
necessarily agree with but a lot of the

932
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:28,140
stuff that they do is really good stuff

933
00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:30,810
that does protect American in other

934
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:35,369
countries people's lives and we never

935
00:44:41,210 --> 00:44:37,440
hear about it it's it's the kind of work

936
00:44:42,980 --> 00:44:41,220
that it's not for everybody so that's

937
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:42,990
the rule that they dwelled in and

938
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:45,210
because of that world that they dwelled

939
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:47,760
in that's how Jackson was able to get

940
00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:50,880
access to this document so anyway the

941
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:52,200
other thing you have to understand is

942
00:44:58,990 --> 00:44:54,330
these guys are really clever at working

943
00:45:02,630 --> 00:44:59,000
with puzzles and codes and lock-picking

944
00:45:06,050 --> 00:45:02,640
you know secret stuff I mean and so what

945
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,060
happened was Don contacted me I took a

946
00:45:09,890 --> 00:45:08,160
trip with my son to the east coast on my

947
00:45:11,870 --> 00:45:09,900
birthday to go to the Newport Tower to

948
00:45:13,730 --> 00:45:11,880
see the illumination and I gave a

949
00:45:16,339 --> 00:45:13,740
lecture that I told people they should

950
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:16,349
watch before they heard our interview

951
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,330
tonight because it sets the table for

952
00:45:24,410 --> 00:45:20,880
what we're talking about right now but

953
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:24,420
anyway on that trip Don came out there

954
00:45:27,770 --> 00:45:26,010
because I wanted him to be there when I

955
00:45:27,950 --> 00:45:27,780
gave this lecture and he was and it was

956
00:46:28,130 --> 00:45:27,960
a

957
00:46:30,530 --> 00:46:28,140
course my son stood up he's like well

958
00:46:33,020 --> 00:46:30,540
and grants an engineer right boy he went

959
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:33,030
right to work and we found the secret

960
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:37,200
pack the secret compartment now a week

961
00:46:44,510 --> 00:46:41,490
earlier Don had sent me page two of

962
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:44,520
these two pages and I called him and I

963
00:46:50,329 --> 00:46:47,369
said worst page one he said you'll get

964
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:50,339
it well guess what was in that secret

965
00:46:56,990 --> 00:46:55,200
compartment page one and and I've got a

966
00:47:00,190 --> 00:46:57,000
video of us pulling it out it's

967
00:47:03,230 --> 00:47:00,200
fantastic so what are these two pages

968
00:47:04,910 --> 00:47:03,240
these two pages now a member I told you

969
00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:04,920
about the map that they used on Oak

970
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Island

971
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:09,810
map it's part of the Cremona document

972
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:12,480
yeah you sent it to me yeah you've seen

973
00:47:16,490 --> 00:47:13,770
it you know what I'm talking about yes

974
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:16,500
the northern part of the map you will

975
00:47:24,109 --> 00:47:19,650
see six french words they are under the

976
00:47:26,650 --> 00:47:24,119
tois Quattro Cinque set one two three

977
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:26,660
four five six and coordinates of

978
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:29,760
latitude and longitude that intersect

979
00:47:33,710 --> 00:47:31,770
where these numbers are there's dot sir

980
00:47:35,390 --> 00:47:33,720
and it says these numbers the only

981
00:47:40,460 --> 00:47:35,400
problem is we don't know what those

982
00:47:41,780 --> 00:47:40,470
numbers correlate to these pages and

983
00:47:43,790 --> 00:47:41,790
then what it says

984
00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:43,800
the top written in cursive writing in

985
00:47:48,380 --> 00:47:46,680
the same hand as the guy who drew those

986
00:47:50,930 --> 00:47:48,390
maps and if you look in the upper

987
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:50,940
right-hand corner of that map you'll see

988
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:53,910
a Sigma of three letters the personal

989
00:47:58,070 --> 00:47:57,090
Sigma of the guy who drew that map see

990
00:48:00,170 --> 00:47:58,080
ly

991
00:48:04,070 --> 00:48:00,180
at the top of these two pages is that

992
00:48:07,130 --> 00:48:04,080
same CL y and that and the heading says

993
00:48:11,620 --> 00:48:07,140
the explanation of the numbers on the

994
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:11,630
eight maps well we only have four maps

995
00:48:17,390 --> 00:48:14,250
you know what that means there's still

996
00:48:17,870 --> 00:48:17,400
four out there I don't know where they

997
00:48:20,420 --> 00:48:17,880
are

998
00:48:25,130 --> 00:48:20,430
well anyway so now what it does it has

999
00:48:28,550 --> 00:48:25,140
numbers on page 1 1 through 19 and then

1000
00:48:32,170 --> 00:48:28,560
on the second page 20 through 24 then

1001
00:48:34,850 --> 00:48:32,180
there's a gap and then 30 and 31 and

1002
00:48:40,430 --> 00:48:34,860
written in French all of these are

1003
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:40,440
written in block French are notes with

1004
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:43,530
each number so those six numbers on the

1005
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:47,040
nova scotia map I know what they stand

1006
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:48,720
for I know what happened there

1007
00:48:56,930 --> 00:48:51,570
they're chronicling events that happen

1008
00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:56,940
on to subtly strip okay then on on seven

1009
00:49:02,870 --> 00:48:59,760
and eight we go to a different map

1010
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:02,880
that's in my book that is the Cape Cod

1011
00:49:12,740 --> 00:49:07,440
map and then we keep going and then we

1012
00:49:15,610 --> 00:49:12,750
hit the southern Connecticut map but

1013
00:49:18,830 --> 00:49:15,620
then we have a series of six entries

1014
00:49:22,340 --> 00:49:18,840
that we don't have maps for those have

1015
00:49:24,490 --> 00:49:22,350
to correlate with the other two or three

1016
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:24,500
or four other maps that we don't have

1017
00:49:32,740 --> 00:49:30,090
but then the entries 20 21 22 23 they

1018
00:49:37,790 --> 00:49:32,750
correlate with one of the maps that is

1019
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:37,800
the Narragansett Bay man and then

1020
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:39,570
there's one more entry and we go back

1021
00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:41,130
and it correlates to one of the other

1022
00:49:47,330 --> 00:49:43,680
maps that we do have but here's what's

1023
00:49:48,980 --> 00:49:47,340
really really important the events that

1024
00:49:51,890 --> 00:49:48,990
take place during the Sutter Lee's

1025
00:49:55,810 --> 00:49:51,900
voyage happened in the late 12th century

1026
00:49:58,520 --> 00:49:55,820
between 11777 eleven

1027
00:50:01,760 --> 00:49:58,530
the problem is throughout the whole

1028
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:01,770
story that he tells in his deposition he

1029
00:50:07,250 --> 00:50:05,280
never talks about being on in the Cape

1030
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:07,260
Cod area and he doesn't talk about

1031
00:50:14,210 --> 00:50:10,800
Narragansett Bay so I was confused to be

1032
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:14,220
a went in for the last six years I have

1033
00:50:19,180 --> 00:50:17,010
assumed that those Maps correlated to

1034
00:50:25,930 --> 00:50:19,190
that journey I just didn't see how they

1035
00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:25,940
fit okay right so it's a disconnect but

1036
00:50:30,770 --> 00:50:28,740
there's an answer to the disconnect and

1037
00:50:33,620 --> 00:50:30,780
you're not going to believe what it is

1038
00:50:35,780 --> 00:50:33,630
and if you're going into commercial this

1039
00:50:38,180 --> 00:50:35,790
would be a good time to do it I want to

1040
00:50:41,450 --> 00:50:38,190
keep people hanging because I'm going to

1041
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:41,460
tell you this Jim on the back of page

1042
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:48,110
one there's another map in invisible ink

1043
00:50:55,460 --> 00:50:51,510
okay okay someone we're talking about we

1044
00:51:00,260 --> 00:50:55,470
all love treasure maps right we all love

1045
00:51:02,210 --> 00:51:00,270
them but in in as you're piecing this

1046
00:51:04,940 --> 00:51:02,220
together and you're looking at this what

1047
00:51:11,210 --> 00:51:04,950
do you think ultimately that these maps

1048
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:11,220
indicate is it merely the mapping of the

1049
00:51:16,460 --> 00:51:13,290
area that they're traveling in and they

1050
00:51:18,980 --> 00:51:16,470
need to navigate and remember where

1051
00:51:21,380 --> 00:51:18,990
they're coming and going from or is it

1052
00:51:23,930 --> 00:51:21,390
something else more significant the

1053
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:23,940
position of something they the hiding of

1054
00:51:28,340 --> 00:51:24,770
something

1055
00:51:30,350 --> 00:51:28,350
obviously the treasure all of the above

1056
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:30,360
Jim all of the above

1057
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:34,710
remember the whole story here is about

1058
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:39,450
what they wanted to establish a New

1059
00:51:45,890 --> 00:51:42,480
Jerusalem in some cases they call it a

1060
00:51:48,740 --> 00:51:45,900
free Templar state a place where they

1061
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:48,750
didn't have to worry about the Monarchs

1062
00:51:52,580 --> 00:51:50,730
of Europe and they're in their corrupt

1063
00:51:54,290 --> 00:51:52,590
ways right they didn't have to worry

1064
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:54,300
about the Roman Catholic Church and its

1065
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:56,610
persecution and how the two working

1066
00:52:01,010 --> 00:51:58,130
consort with each other

1067
00:52:03,230 --> 00:52:01,020
legitimizing each other and promoting

1068
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:03,240
the corruption that each would commit

1069
00:52:08,750 --> 00:52:06,330
against the people and who suffered from

1070
00:52:12,050 --> 00:52:08,760
that persecution for God's sakes

1071
00:52:13,700 --> 00:52:12,060
the the the poster child for persecution

1072
00:52:17,210 --> 00:52:13,710
by the church in the Monarchs of Europe

1073
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:17,220
or the Knights Templar order they were

1074
00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:19,050
the ones that were the biggest threat to

1075
00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:22,110
them but what they didn't realize and

1076
00:52:27,470 --> 00:52:23,910
what we're now just starting to realize

1077
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:27,480
is they had a grand plan for hundreds of

1078
00:52:35,330 --> 00:52:32,250
years to establish a new new sanctuary

1079
00:52:37,970 --> 00:52:35,340
over here and so what these records are

1080
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:37,980
that this Cremona document is and other

1081
00:52:43,010 --> 00:52:39,810
things that we have yet to share with

1082
00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:43,020
you I can't share yet are these are the

1083
00:52:48,410 --> 00:52:45,150
secret documents of that the Templars

1084
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:48,420
kept and the Cistercians preserve that

1085
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:52,170
tell of that entire mission and just

1086
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:54,210
like you said what else is preserved in

1087
00:52:58,490 --> 00:52:55,770
here besides the mapping well of course

1088
00:53:02,050 --> 00:52:58,500
they map the coastlines and the inland

1089
00:53:04,190 --> 00:53:02,060
areas and they got to know this land

1090
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:04,200
extensively I mean they had to know

1091
00:53:08,540 --> 00:53:06,330
about you know where did where to

1092
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:08,550
navigate where to go where the resources

1093
00:53:14,270 --> 00:53:10,770
were and more importantly probably than

1094
00:53:16,130 --> 00:53:14,280
anything is the people that were here

1095
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:16,140
the indigenous people that were here

1096
00:53:22,940 --> 00:53:18,720
that they absolutely interacted with and

1097
00:53:25,610 --> 00:53:22,950
formed a strategic alliance with because

1098
00:53:28,070 --> 00:53:25,620
there's no way that anybody is going to

1099
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:28,080
operate on this continent without the

1100
00:53:31,820 --> 00:53:29,970
support and the cooperation of the

1101
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:31,830
indigenous people it's just not going to

1102
00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:34,800
happen and that is what these records

1103
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:37,260
tell us and it's an amazing story it's

1104
00:53:43,130 --> 00:53:40,650
the incredible story it's the real story

1105
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:43,140
about the history of the founding of

1106
00:53:48,530 --> 00:53:45,090
this nation and part of what I'm trying

1107
00:53:52,010 --> 00:53:48,540
to do here Jim is educate people with

1108
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:52,020
documents science and facts about the

1109
00:53:57,740 --> 00:53:54,330
real history of what happened here

1110
00:53:59,120 --> 00:53:57,750
and probably now more than ever are the

1111
00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:59,130
people of this country need to

1112
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:01,680
understand what the origins of this

1113
00:54:08,180 --> 00:54:06,090
country truly are and were and so that I

1114
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:08,190
feel is what this mission is all about

1115
00:54:11,690 --> 00:54:10,890
and I'm having so much damn fun I can't

1116
00:54:13,970 --> 00:54:11,700
stand it

1117
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:13,980
people actually pay me to do this it's

1118
00:54:20,890 --> 00:54:17,330
amazing well Scott the

1119
00:54:23,730 --> 00:54:20,900
the the only thing that we can come away

1120
00:54:28,930 --> 00:54:23,740
from and you know we're talking about

1121
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:28,940
1180 right 12th century 1180 yeah that

1122
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:33,890
the travel across the Atlantic or around

1123
00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:37,490
the world was easy this was something

1124
00:54:44,830 --> 00:54:40,910
that was not a big deal I don't see

1125
00:54:47,860 --> 00:54:44,840
stress here right I see what's going on

1126
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:47,870
a second on one hand you're right but on

1127
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:49,760
the other hand you're not make no

1128
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:52,610
mistake it was dangerous business okay

1129
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:55,130
and then we see that in these documents

1130
00:55:00,720 --> 00:54:58,010
they lost ships they lost men all the

1131
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:00,730
time I mean those first three numbers

1132
00:55:07,390 --> 00:55:04,730
one two three on on these comments here

1133
00:55:10,450 --> 00:55:07,400
they talk about a shipwreck to subtly

1134
00:55:13,050 --> 00:55:10,460
lost one of his ships and they had and

1135
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:13,060
they scuttled it but it didn't deter

1136
00:55:18,310 --> 00:55:17,450
right you know when they were over in

1137
00:55:19,990 --> 00:55:18,320
Scotland

1138
00:55:22,060 --> 00:55:20,000
all right the rover in the United

1139
00:55:23,590 --> 00:55:22,070
Kingdom they're like okay well you know

1140
00:55:26,770 --> 00:55:23,600
what we got it we got to go over to

1141
00:55:29,980 --> 00:55:26,780
America and we're talking about in 1100

1142
00:55:32,980 --> 00:55:29,990
where this was something that they

1143
00:55:35,620 --> 00:55:32,990
jumped on a ship and went and did they

1144
00:55:38,020 --> 00:55:35,630
they weren't concerned about where they

1145
00:55:39,900 --> 00:55:38,030
were going to because they knew where

1146
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:39,910
they were going to it wasn't absolutely

1147
00:55:46,810 --> 00:55:44,290
100% and that's not and and remember

1148
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:46,820
they had been doing it for thousands of

1149
00:55:51,070 --> 00:55:48,610
years before that that's right

1150
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:51,080
suddenly is going over to recover

1151
00:55:55,420 --> 00:55:53,170
documents that were brought over here

1152
00:55:57,220 --> 00:55:55,430
years earlier that's right had already

1153
00:55:59,920 --> 00:55:57,230
done this that's right so this is a

1154
00:56:02,980 --> 00:55:59,930
thousand years later that they're making

1155
00:56:05,740 --> 00:56:02,990
these trips and again it was not easy it

1156
00:56:08,620 --> 00:56:05,750
was dangerous and they lost lives but in

1157
00:56:10,900 --> 00:56:08,630
a way the mindset back then was

1158
00:56:13,030 --> 00:56:10,910
something you know akin to if you're on

1159
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:13,040
a football team you know and you're

1160
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:14,960
playing you're playing big boy football

1161
00:56:20,170 --> 00:56:17,330
or rugby or hockey or anything else I

1162
00:56:21,940 --> 00:56:20,180
mean you can go down right you can blow

1163
00:56:23,140 --> 00:56:21,950
out a knee you can blow out a shoulder

1164
00:56:25,570 --> 00:56:23,150
you can get a concussion

1165
00:56:27,850 --> 00:56:25,580
this is collateral damage as part of the

1166
00:56:29,650 --> 00:56:27,860
game it's I'm not saying it's a good

1167
00:56:30,910 --> 00:56:29,660
thing but it's just it's just part of

1168
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:30,920
the deal but

1169
00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:33,650
but for them part of the deal was they

1170
00:56:39,279 --> 00:56:35,569
could lose ships they could lose lives

1171
00:56:41,380 --> 00:56:39,289
they could lose everybody but it was it

1172
00:56:43,269 --> 00:56:41,390
was worth it to him and and they

1173
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:43,279
understood that they realized the

1174
00:56:48,069 --> 00:56:45,650
dangers but they did it anyway and it's

1175
00:56:49,450 --> 00:56:48,079
it's incredible it's just it's something

1176
00:56:52,269 --> 00:56:49,460
that I just don't think people

1177
00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:52,279
comprehend today except for the people

1178
00:56:57,490 --> 00:56:55,250
that serve in our military right because

1179
00:57:00,460 --> 00:56:57,500
one of the things that you know could

1180
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:00,470
happen when you sign up you might not

1181
00:57:05,259 --> 00:57:03,650
come home yeah sacrifice your limb right

1182
00:57:07,539 --> 00:57:05,269
this is fade to black our guest tonight

1183
00:57:09,309 --> 00:57:07,549
Scott Wolter I'm Merrill Stubing Church

1184
00:57:12,910 --> 00:57:09,319
we'll be right back after this short

1185
00:57:50,229 --> 00:57:47,540
[Music]

1186
00:57:52,670 --> 00:57:50,239
[Applause]

1187
00:57:54,229 --> 00:57:52,680
welcome back baby blood I am there

1188
00:57:57,349 --> 00:57:54,239
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1189
00:58:00,019 --> 00:57:57,359
official fader not simple to do just go

1190
00:58:02,479 --> 00:58:00,029
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1191
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:02,489
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1192
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:04,650
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1193
00:58:09,469 --> 00:58:07,680
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1194
00:58:12,019 --> 00:58:09,479
over in our membership section our guest

1195
00:58:14,479 --> 00:58:12,029
tonight Scott Wolter and now Scott right

1196
00:58:16,279 --> 00:58:14,489
before the break you were teasing about

1197
00:58:21,620 --> 00:58:16,289
big reveal number two when it comes to

1198
00:58:25,579 --> 00:58:21,630
these two pages yes yes I did and you

1199
00:58:27,499 --> 00:58:25,589
know I'm just looking at I've got

1200
00:58:29,569 --> 00:58:27,509
printed out copies of a PowerPoint that

1201
00:58:32,420 --> 00:58:29,579
I put together it was the way I studied

1202
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:32,430
this thing and tried to understand all

1203
00:58:39,499 --> 00:58:36,529
the the comments and and everything but

1204
00:58:41,569 --> 00:58:39,509
then when I got home from my trip you

1205
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:41,579
know it was like the 23rd or something a

1206
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:43,680
couple days before Christmas dawn sent

1207
00:58:49,459 --> 00:58:46,319
me an email and he said there's a

1208
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:49,469
there's a map on the back of page one I

1209
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:51,930
said what are you talking about and he

1210
00:58:59,150 --> 00:58:56,130
sent me a photograph and sure enough and

1211
00:59:04,069 --> 00:58:59,160
really this map on the back is the key

1212
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:04,079
is is a huge piece to this puzzle of the

1213
00:59:08,420 --> 00:59:06,690
Cremona document and and I just need to

1214
00:59:11,809 --> 00:59:08,430
back up and tell you that you know there

1215
00:59:15,249 --> 00:59:11,819
are some other things that other pages

1216
00:59:18,609 --> 00:59:15,259
that are part of this document that have

1217
00:59:20,959 --> 00:59:18,619
secret maps on them and I haven't really

1218
00:59:22,579 --> 00:59:20,969
said much about him and I didn't write

1219
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:22,589
about them too much I wrote about one of

1220
00:59:28,729 --> 00:59:25,410
them in my my latest book because it was

1221
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:28,739
germane to the story that we tell but

1222
00:59:33,650 --> 00:59:31,440
there's a couple of other letters that

1223
00:59:36,259 --> 00:59:33,660
have secret maps that were that were

1224
00:59:38,689 --> 00:59:36,269
brought out with lemon juice and heat in

1225
00:59:40,999 --> 00:59:38,699
other words if you put lemon juice on

1226
00:59:42,529 --> 00:59:41,009
them the the ink that they use reacted

1227
00:59:44,479 --> 00:59:42,539
with the lemon juice that would be

1228
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:44,489
brought out and then you would be able

1229
00:59:48,439 --> 00:59:46,650
to fixate it and get it to stay for a

1230
00:59:51,019 --> 00:59:48,449
while with with like a hairdryer or

1231
00:59:54,709 --> 00:59:51,029
something right well unfortunately one

1232
00:59:56,689 --> 00:59:54,719
of these maps they were they were they

1233
00:59:59,150 --> 00:59:56,699
they did this with now this was back in

1234
01:00:02,180 --> 00:59:59,160
the in the in the 70s and they were

1235
01:00:03,500 --> 01:00:02,190
taking pictures when their letters would

1236
01:00:05,660 --> 01:00:03,510
come out and the line

1237
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:05,670
would come out on this map they took

1238
01:00:10,670 --> 01:00:07,920
pictures but the problem was they had

1239
01:00:13,150 --> 01:00:10,680
the heater too close and it ignited and

1240
01:00:15,890 --> 01:00:13,160
the thing caught fire and burned out so

1241
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:15,900
that one's gone but we do have the

1242
01:00:21,050 --> 01:00:17,610
photographs and one of the pictures

1243
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:21,060
shows it literally on fire I mean it's

1244
01:00:26,210 --> 01:00:23,760
unbelievable and I'm like no but it

1245
01:00:28,460 --> 01:00:26,220
happened like almost 50 years ago you

1246
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:28,470
know it's back in the early 70s but in

1247
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:32,130
any case there are other ways of me of

1248
01:00:38,740 --> 01:00:35,850
creating invisible maps if you will and

1249
01:00:41,540 --> 01:00:38,750
the one that is on this particular page

1250
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:41,550
didn't react to the lemon juice in heat

1251
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:46,170
but it did react to backlight so Don's

1252
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:49,770
picture was of the backlight image of

1253
01:00:56,060 --> 01:00:51,690
what was on the backside and what I

1254
01:00:59,390 --> 01:00:56,070
could see was even characters and a map

1255
01:01:01,100 --> 01:00:59,400
of a place and I can't tell you the

1256
01:01:03,140 --> 01:01:01,110
place oh yeah you can

1257
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:03,150
whereas camp I love you I'm running

1258
01:01:05,660 --> 01:01:04,650
wares and you're really good at getting

1259
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:05,670
stuff out of me

1260
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:07,650
but I'm gonna stand firm I got a draw

1261
01:01:11,900 --> 01:01:10,170
the line hammer justice I love you to

1262
01:01:15,220 --> 01:01:11,910
death but I can't do it I know I know

1263
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:15,230
I'm not asking for Google Earth

1264
01:01:23,390 --> 01:01:19,920
coordinates so we can swarm the site but

1265
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:23,400
where where is it it's it's in North

1266
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:24,810
America on the east coast

1267
01:01:34,690 --> 01:01:27,450
daddy will data will tell you so okay it

1268
01:01:39,350 --> 01:01:34,700
could be anywhere from Florida to Maine

1269
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:39,360
that's that okay okay let's okay but are

1270
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:41,130
we talking about the northern East Coast

1271
01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:44,090
it must be northern it's not southern

1272
01:01:48,860 --> 01:01:46,710
you're gonna do 20 questions on you're

1273
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:48,870
gonna try to nail this down well I may

1274
01:02:00,470 --> 01:01:52,770
have been born it okay so we know it's

1275
01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:00,480
in we know it's in the Northeast but let

1276
01:02:04,340 --> 01:02:02,640
me just tell you what it says okay and

1277
01:02:08,210 --> 01:02:04,350
let me tell you what the revelation is

1278
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:08,220
okay but is it on the coast or is it

1279
01:02:16,970 --> 01:02:12,000
inland well an island isn't on oh it's

1280
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:16,980
an island in the Northeast okay okay

1281
01:02:24,410 --> 01:02:20,010
you did okay so it's an island but it's

1282
01:02:27,829 --> 01:02:24,420
not Oak Island of course no no no don't

1283
01:02:29,710 --> 01:02:27,839
go there okay anyway no absolutely not

1284
01:02:31,940 --> 01:02:29,720
no we're done talking about that now

1285
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:31,950
let's talk about the first two lines

1286
01:02:35,349 --> 01:02:33,930
that are written in Stephen script and I

1287
01:02:37,940 --> 01:02:35,359
actually kind of know the Theban

1288
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:37,950
alphabet pretty good by now and all of

1289
01:02:42,770 --> 01:02:39,690
these are a one-to-one letter

1290
01:02:45,530 --> 01:02:42,780
substitution so I did my best with this

1291
01:02:48,050 --> 01:02:45,540
picture but I was I I couldn't do it as

1292
01:02:51,260 --> 01:02:48,060
well don has the actual document I have

1293
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:51,270
not seen this backside of the page yet

1294
01:02:56,329 --> 01:02:54,089
I've seen the front page but I did we

1295
01:02:58,940 --> 01:02:56,339
didn't know about the map until after he

1296
01:03:00,319 --> 01:02:58,950
went back home right so I never saw it I

1297
01:03:02,839 --> 01:03:00,329
didn't look at I didn't even think there

1298
01:03:04,460 --> 01:03:02,849
would be something on the backside when

1299
01:03:05,030 --> 01:03:04,470
you look at that we'll make that mistake

1300
01:03:07,220 --> 01:03:05,040
again

1301
01:03:09,260 --> 01:03:07,230
sure and when you look at the map does

1302
01:03:13,010 --> 01:03:09,270
it feel accurate to you

1303
01:03:15,500 --> 01:03:13,020
yep it feels accurate so it's not like

1304
01:03:18,650 --> 01:03:15,510
this map I know exactly where this is so

1305
01:03:20,690 --> 01:03:18,660
it's not like Long Island where it's not

1306
01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:20,700
really an island we're talking about an

1307
01:03:25,849 --> 01:03:23,369
island that is an actual Island Island

1308
01:03:27,770 --> 01:03:25,859
Long Island technically is an island I

1309
01:03:31,819 --> 01:03:27,780
mean technically it is but it's it's a

1310
01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:31,829
huge tract of land no it's not not that

1311
01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:35,760
so it's not Long Island no no no exactly

1312
01:03:41,839 --> 01:03:38,880
so it's got to be another fan having

1313
01:03:44,930 --> 01:03:41,849
said that it doesn't mean it couldn't be

1314
01:03:47,270 --> 01:03:44,940
one of the islands on the northern end

1315
01:03:49,819 --> 01:03:47,280
of longtime bunch of islands up there

1316
01:03:53,300 --> 01:03:49,829
right so we know it's north of Long

1317
01:04:03,829 --> 01:03:53,310
Island then okay yeah we do we do we're

1318
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:03,839
getting close okay actually do want to

1319
01:04:09,470 --> 01:04:07,170
know what it says okay here we go you

1320
01:04:13,010 --> 01:04:09,480
ready yes so the first two lines say

1321
01:04:14,950 --> 01:04:13,020
this the place where we deposit the

1322
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:14,960
treasure of the Poor Knights of Christ

1323
01:04:22,010 --> 01:04:19,290
say that again the place where we

1324
01:04:25,490 --> 01:04:22,020
deposit the treasure of the Poor Knights

1325
01:04:29,470 --> 01:04:25,500
of Christ okay now what's interesting

1326
01:04:33,940 --> 01:04:29,480
about this is this is a parent

1327
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:33,950
what they called themselves they didn't

1328
01:04:37,750 --> 01:04:36,050
call themselves the Templars right now

1329
01:04:40,690 --> 01:04:37,760
in other documents they call themselves

1330
01:04:42,609 --> 01:04:40,700
the Templar II but in this case they

1331
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:42,619
call them it's almost like a formal name

1332
01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:47,570
poor Knights of Christ that in itself is

1333
01:04:53,380 --> 01:04:50,720
really a big deal

1334
01:04:58,170 --> 01:04:53,390
well okay can we stop there for a second

1335
01:05:05,620 --> 01:04:58,180
yeah there are when we look at that

1336
01:05:07,980 --> 01:05:05,630
style of titling it reminds me of you

1337
01:05:12,510 --> 01:05:07,990
know what was going on in Malta or

1338
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:12,520
Portugal or in India right different

1339
01:05:16,540 --> 01:05:15,050
branches of the Knights Templar around

1340
01:05:19,210 --> 01:05:16,550
the world is that what we're dealing

1341
01:05:21,220 --> 01:05:19,220
with well I think so I think that's a

1342
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:21,230
really good point that you make that you

1343
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:23,930
know depending on where you are you were

1344
01:05:31,510 --> 01:05:27,530
in Europe or in the Mediterranean region

1345
01:05:34,150 --> 01:05:31,520
right you know factions of what are the

1346
01:05:36,340 --> 01:05:34,160
same order called themselves something

1347
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:36,350
slightly different like in Portugal they

1348
01:05:41,710 --> 01:05:38,210
were the order of Christ that's right

1349
01:05:44,410 --> 01:05:41,720
right right and so so yeah they had

1350
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:44,420
slightly different ways that you know

1351
01:05:48,580 --> 01:05:46,010
that they would think that they would

1352
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:48,590
call themselves and I really haven't

1353
01:05:52,090 --> 01:05:50,450
looked into that in any detail now let

1354
01:05:53,890 --> 01:05:52,100
me just back up for just a second so you

1355
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:53,900
understand because some people are going

1356
01:05:59,320 --> 01:05:55,730
it says the port you know the place for

1357
01:06:03,190 --> 01:05:59,330
the deposits and treasure if the Theban

1358
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:03,200
translated into french and then it was

1359
01:06:07,890 --> 01:06:05,690
translated into English so this is this

1360
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:07,900
would be a modern vernacular of the

1361
01:06:16,870 --> 01:06:11,530
French that was probably a you know

1362
01:06:18,310 --> 01:06:16,880
1850s 1860s okay so for the academics

1363
01:06:20,380 --> 01:06:18,320
out there that are that are turning

1364
01:06:24,460 --> 01:06:20,390
their nose up to this no this is one to

1365
01:06:26,710 --> 01:06:24,470
one in English this is into 19th century

1366
01:06:29,710 --> 01:06:26,720
French and then into modern English okay

1367
01:06:32,620 --> 01:06:29,720
so just so everybody understands this is

1368
01:06:35,410 --> 01:06:32,630
what it says after we do all those

1369
01:06:39,490 --> 01:06:35,420
translations makes sense

1370
01:06:43,710 --> 01:06:39,500
it does it does and what okay so where

1371
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:45,910
there's a night okay

1372
01:06:51,310 --> 01:06:48,170
okay well let's get to that but the

1373
01:06:53,470 --> 01:06:51,320
night's don't get mad at me there's two

1374
01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:53,480
more things that are on this back side

1375
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:55,280
of secret information

1376
01:07:00,310 --> 01:06:57,410
besides the map I can't tell you about

1377
01:07:02,260 --> 01:07:00,320
there is also some information on the

1378
01:07:04,060 --> 01:07:02,270
bottom that gives us location

1379
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:04,070
information obviously I can't tell you

1380
01:07:09,010 --> 01:07:06,770
that but there's something else on here

1381
01:07:12,700 --> 01:07:09,020
that is probably the most important

1382
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:12,710
thing that helps put all of this into

1383
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:15,650
context finally for me and you'll

1384
01:07:20,109 --> 01:07:17,210
understand what I'm talking about when I

1385
01:07:22,300 --> 01:07:20,119
tell you remember I said we have we know

1386
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:22,310
we have four Maps apparently of eight

1387
01:07:29,589 --> 01:07:26,930
and we don't have four others two of the

1388
01:07:31,359 --> 01:07:29,599
four maps that we have absolutely and

1389
01:07:34,510 --> 01:07:31,369
the comments that are on these two pages

1390
01:07:37,990 --> 01:07:34,520
are directly related to the voyage of

1391
01:07:40,540 --> 01:07:38,000
Ralph - subtly and what he did here at

1392
01:07:43,660 --> 01:07:40,550
the temple and then you know how he got

1393
01:07:46,150 --> 01:07:43,670
out of here no question about it

1394
01:07:47,770 --> 01:07:46,160
the other two maps don't correlate at

1395
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:47,780
all with that story he doesn't go

1396
01:07:52,270 --> 01:07:49,730
anywhere near those places he doesn't

1397
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:52,280
talk about him what the hell are they

1398
01:07:58,329 --> 01:07:55,280
doing here that is that was my question

1399
01:08:01,540 --> 01:07:58,339
so I for a long time I assumed because

1400
01:08:05,260 --> 01:08:01,550
the date on the one map is 1179 that

1401
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:05,270
those other two maps must correlate with

1402
01:08:10,030 --> 01:08:07,250
the other two right so they all have to

1403
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:10,040
be from that time period well guess what

1404
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:12,770
hmm you know what the date is on this

1405
01:08:20,440 --> 01:08:16,730
secret map here do you know how to do

1406
01:08:22,510 --> 01:08:20,450
roman numbers oh yeah okay so you know

1407
01:08:24,519 --> 01:08:22,520
what Jim every time you and I get

1408
01:08:26,380 --> 01:08:24,529
together you're always asking me the

1409
01:08:28,059 --> 01:08:26,390
questions now I'm going to put one to

1410
01:08:30,190 --> 01:08:28,069
you you're going to do the work here for

1411
01:08:33,999 --> 01:08:30,200
us okay okay I'll write this down and

1412
01:08:45,780 --> 01:08:34,009
you tell me the year okay okay ready yep

1413
01:08:53,110 --> 01:08:45,790
M si si si l x.v

1414
01:08:54,459 --> 01:08:53,120
1 1 1 what year is that okay uh let me

1415
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:54,469
see if I can figure this out

1416
01:09:09,420 --> 01:08:56,210
I'm gonna guess and say

1417
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:09,430
a 1968 no you're off by 600 years okay

1418
01:09:17,590 --> 01:09:15,170
MC adding MC is 100 right L is 50

1419
01:09:22,660 --> 01:09:17,600
all right Thank You Sen I thought you

1420
01:09:29,410 --> 01:09:22,670
said MC m l x.v you don't know I look MC

1421
01:09:33,220 --> 01:09:29,420
c c LX o MC c l okay sorry about that

1422
01:09:43,740 --> 01:09:33,230
okay hold on for a second so it's m CC c

1423
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:43,750
LX v 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 okay hmm

1424
01:09:55,050 --> 01:09:48,770
okay I am going to say Dave I said 1 1

1425
01:09:58,750 --> 01:09:55,060
one's got to be 1/8 1368 you got it now

1426
01:10:02,700 --> 01:09:58,760
what does that mean that is not anywhere

1427
01:10:05,979 --> 01:10:02,710
near 11 1779

1428
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:05,989
that's almost two centuries later right

1429
01:10:15,340 --> 01:10:10,250
but predates Columbus by 50 years it

1430
01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:15,350
does nobody right right but there's more

1431
01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:18,800
that I haven't told you about I have one

1432
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:21,520
more big reveal here Eddie

1433
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:23,810
you're getting so much stuff should we

1434
01:10:37,660 --> 01:10:36,890
save this for the next show no ok all

1435
01:10:40,270 --> 01:10:37,670
right here we go

1436
01:10:44,010 --> 01:10:40,280
so let's go back to that Narragansett

1437
01:10:49,209 --> 01:10:44,020
Bay map do you remember the last episode

1438
01:10:52,209 --> 01:10:49,219
that we did this year so and tracking

1439
01:10:54,610 --> 01:10:52,219
the Templars oh that's right yes and we

1440
01:10:58,150 --> 01:10:54,620
went we went up to Newfoundland and we

1441
01:10:59,979 --> 01:10:58,160
found that haystack inscription that had

1442
01:11:02,350 --> 01:10:59,989
the triple barred cross that's right

1443
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:02,360
then we went Scotland and we found we

1444
01:11:07,180 --> 01:11:05,090
went into Wemyss caves and we found

1445
01:11:10,090 --> 01:11:07,190
another triple barred cross the exact

1446
01:11:12,460 --> 01:11:10,100
same triple barred cross

1447
01:11:15,460 --> 01:11:12,470
and then we went to Newport Rhode Island

1448
01:11:18,670 --> 01:11:15,470
and we found that in hoc Signo Vinces

1449
01:11:19,540 --> 01:11:18,680
dong mm-hmm first time we revealed that

1450
01:11:21,580 --> 01:11:19,550
on television

1451
01:11:24,130 --> 01:11:21,590
that's right at the two-to-one ratio

1452
01:11:26,140 --> 01:11:24,140
right the block the block Latin that

1453
01:11:27,970 --> 01:11:26,150
said in hoc which happens to be that bad

1454
01:11:31,330 --> 01:11:27,980
will cry of the Knights Templar that's

1455
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:31,340
right okay if you do you have a copy of

1456
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:34,970
my book handy not here okay well when

1457
01:11:40,900 --> 01:11:36,530
you get home I want you to look at the

1458
01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:40,910
Narragansett Bay map and there's two

1459
01:11:47,340 --> 01:11:43,070
horizontal lines at the southern part of

1460
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:47,350
the map and on it it says vingt une

1461
01:11:58,330 --> 01:11:52,850
vingt dis vingt wha twenty twenty-one

1462
01:12:01,390 --> 01:11:58,340
twenty-two and twenty-three twenty-two

1463
01:12:04,180 --> 01:12:01,400
comment in the new page that we just got

1464
01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:04,190
says the storm pushes the boat to land

1465
01:12:09,850 --> 01:12:06,800
among many islands this is dangerous

1466
01:12:13,690 --> 01:12:09,860
again this is English translated from

1467
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:13,700
French okay eighteen 1800s era French

1468
01:12:18,610 --> 01:12:16,370
this is the translation Don and I each

1469
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:18,620
do their own translations and we pulled

1470
01:12:25,420 --> 01:12:20,210
them together and this is what we got

1471
01:12:27,220 --> 01:12:25,430
okay that's 20 and that's if you look at

1472
01:12:32,290 --> 01:12:27,230
this map there's small islands all

1473
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:32,300
through Narragansett Bay 21 that point

1474
01:12:40,350 --> 01:12:34,970
right there you'll see it on the map

1475
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:40,360
it says Shoals here three fathoms

1476
01:12:49,690 --> 01:12:46,880
you know where that dot is exactly where

1477
01:12:53,530 --> 01:12:49,700
on that shore is the in hoc Signo Vinces

1478
01:12:55,990 --> 01:12:53,540
stone really i crap you not I'm telling

1479
01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:56,000
you right now and guess what I went

1480
01:13:00,790 --> 01:12:58,130
online the other day and I looked at the

1481
01:13:03,310 --> 01:13:00,800
isobars up depth right off the coast

1482
01:13:08,190 --> 01:13:03,320
there and you know what the first isobar

1483
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:08,200
is 17.7 feet you know what that is

1484
01:13:21,250 --> 01:13:12,170
three fathoms what is the closest city

1485
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:21,260
to that to that shole newport so the

1486
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:23,600
string of I okay is it gardeners I

1487
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:26,810
and no it's on them it's on Aqueduct

1488
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:28,130
islands on the big island

1489
01:13:35,860 --> 01:13:33,250
no I'm talking about the secret map oh I

1490
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:35,870
can neither confirm nor deny

1491
01:13:42,250 --> 01:13:38,210
so it's you know because you have

1492
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:42,260
Robin's Island tap once if it's yes tap

1493
01:13:48,730 --> 01:13:46,250
two of us no Robins Robins I landed yeah

1494
01:13:51,550 --> 01:13:48,740
rapid warned with it

1495
01:13:53,860 --> 01:13:51,560
Warner Islands yeah patter Squasher I

1496
01:13:58,050 --> 01:13:53,870
can't give it up Jim like come on I mean

1497
01:14:00,610 --> 01:13:58,060
come on would you give it up man

1498
01:14:02,770 --> 01:14:00,620
this is fun though it's fun

1499
01:14:06,730 --> 01:14:02,780
III think it's I think it's garden I

1500
01:14:08,460 --> 01:14:06,740
think it's Gardiner's Island okay so

1501
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:08,470
what about twenty-two and twenty-three

1502
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:09,650
okay

1503
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:12,410
twenty-two and you know twenty-two is a

1504
01:14:18,820 --> 01:14:15,890
sacred number okay now no I

1505
01:14:23,050 --> 01:14:18,830
it just indulge me for a second if you

1506
01:14:26,230 --> 01:14:23,060
will because because twenty-two is such

1507
01:14:29,260 --> 01:14:26,240
an important entry and think about it in

1508
01:14:30,580 --> 01:14:29,270
context of the date that we just came up

1509
01:14:33,580 --> 01:14:30,590
with okay

1510
01:14:38,170 --> 01:14:33,590
I will just say this what this is about

1511
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:38,180
where this dot is for twenty-two is

1512
01:14:44,710 --> 01:14:41,170
exactly where the Newport tower is okay

1513
01:14:46,900 --> 01:14:44,720
so when I saw this prior to a few days

1514
01:14:48,610 --> 01:14:46,910
ago when I got this final translation

1515
01:14:51,670 --> 01:14:48,620
when Don and I settled on the

1516
01:14:55,750 --> 01:14:51,680
translation right the problem that I've

1517
01:14:58,750 --> 01:14:55,760
had is that dot being where the Newport

1518
01:15:01,030 --> 01:14:58,760
towers doesn't make any sense in the

1519
01:15:04,690 --> 01:15:01,040
Cremona document because it's the end of

1520
01:15:07,750 --> 01:15:04,700
the 12th century and for 15 years now

1521
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:07,760
I'd been saying for good reason that the

1522
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:11,890
tower was probably built around 1400

1523
01:15:18,490 --> 01:15:15,610
this is a problem this map is a problem

1524
01:15:23,710 --> 01:15:18,500
because it because it means I'm wrong by

1525
01:15:27,820 --> 01:15:23,720
over two hundred years but guess what

1526
01:15:30,310 --> 01:15:27,830
what I was wrong well because I assumed

1527
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:30,320
that this map was contemporaneous with

1528
01:15:37,180 --> 01:15:33,530
the other maps and it's not well okay

1529
01:15:40,450 --> 01:15:37,190
Lee it's related to

1530
01:15:41,950 --> 01:15:40,460
- the 1368 date okay

1531
01:15:43,780 --> 01:15:41,960
now yours where it's going to get really

1532
01:15:45,430 --> 01:15:43,790
fun I'll listen to this okay ready

1533
01:15:47,350 --> 01:15:45,440
well I want to go back to the Newport

1534
01:15:50,020 --> 01:15:47,360
tower we got it I want to go back to

1535
01:15:52,870 --> 01:15:50,030
jail okay okay good what do you want to

1536
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:52,880
say about the tower go ahead No when you

1537
01:15:59,640 --> 01:15:56,570
say that 22 marks the exact spot of the

1538
01:16:02,890 --> 01:15:59,650
Newport tower now we're going into

1539
01:16:05,050 --> 01:16:02,900
fantastic land fantastical right the

1540
01:16:07,810 --> 01:16:05,060
coincidence beside of this no this is

1541
01:16:10,570 --> 01:16:07,820
like like orgasmatron land right it was

1542
01:16:11,050 --> 01:16:10,580
exactly as it gets and there's nothing

1543
01:16:13,480 --> 01:16:11,060
better

1544
01:16:17,650 --> 01:16:13,490
that's right me I when I read this I was

1545
01:16:21,090 --> 01:16:17,660
almost weeping seriously so just sit

1546
01:16:30,460 --> 01:16:21,100
back and enjoy this because it's so good

1547
01:16:34,330 --> 01:16:30,470
ready yep okay the observatory is built

1548
01:16:37,090 --> 01:16:34,340
here the hut of the day observers is on

1549
01:16:39,550 --> 01:16:37,100
the right and the night observers on the

1550
01:16:42,550 --> 01:16:39,560
left the field of measurements

1551
01:16:44,980 --> 01:16:42,560
surrounded by a stone wall separated

1552
01:16:50,110 --> 01:16:44,990
them from numerous slabs and wooden

1553
01:17:02,050 --> 01:16:50,120
poles Henry remains here to oversee the

1554
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:02,060
construction man okay so you know what's

1555
01:17:06,940 --> 01:17:05,330
going on right well laying out the

1556
01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:06,950
alignment they're laying out the

1557
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:09,310
alignment and they're also naming names

1558
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:13,850
yeah they are and installed H E and RI

1559
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:17,840
okay now when we get okay so just for

1560
01:17:25,660 --> 01:17:20,690
grins I'm not gonna say it out loud who

1561
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:25,670
is Henry I don't know here's the place

1562
01:17:31,930 --> 01:17:28,250
there's the reality okay he is in plans

1563
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:31,940
to be well it does and there's reasons

1564
01:17:35,290 --> 01:17:33,530
why I'm saying that that I really can't

1565
01:17:39,130 --> 01:17:35,300
go into right now because it'll reveal

1566
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:39,140
too much but it does relate to that 1368

1567
01:17:44,980 --> 01:17:42,290
date which is perfect for Team Sky right

1568
01:17:50,350 --> 01:17:44,990
okay right right I borrowed that line

1569
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:52,780
Jason Sudeikis on the drug mission and

1570
01:17:59,589 --> 01:17:55,250
he shows up to this well this is a big

1571
01:18:03,520 --> 01:17:59,599
win for Team Brad yes okay that's

1572
01:18:05,140 --> 01:18:03,530
actually a funny scene and some funny

1573
01:18:10,030 --> 01:18:05,150
scent and some funny said anyway the

1574
01:18:13,870 --> 01:18:10,040
point is is that 1368 is perfect for

1575
01:18:17,290 --> 01:18:13,880
another reason the Kensington Runestone

1576
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:17,300
what's the date on that Jim okay I wait

1577
01:18:26,709 --> 01:18:22,730
a minute now okay the the the critics

1578
01:18:29,169 --> 01:18:26,719
out there at this point when things are

1579
01:18:31,629 --> 01:18:29,179
lining up like they are they are going

1580
01:18:34,060 --> 01:18:31,639
to go all come on Scott now you're

1581
01:18:36,089 --> 01:18:34,070
reaching no I'm not Rican dude the

1582
01:18:39,569 --> 01:18:36,099
data's right here you don't like it I

1583
01:18:41,770 --> 01:18:39,579
don't want to hear anything from them

1584
01:18:44,140 --> 01:18:41,780
unless they have something to contribute

1585
01:18:46,689 --> 01:18:44,150
if you don't like it then shut your

1586
01:18:49,629 --> 01:18:46,699
mouth listen to you guys for 20 years

1587
01:18:51,550 --> 01:18:49,639
you got nothing to offer the data the

1588
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:51,560
data the results of the results and I'm

1589
01:18:56,140 --> 01:18:53,449
sorry if I'm getting pissed off but I

1590
01:18:58,810 --> 01:18:56,150
dealt with those universe for a long

1591
01:19:00,580 --> 01:18:58,820
time the bottom line is is look you want

1592
01:19:03,189 --> 01:19:00,590
to interpret this a different way you go

1593
01:19:05,379 --> 01:19:03,199
right ahead so the data is the data this

1594
01:19:08,229 --> 01:19:05,389
what I read to you is what it is right a

1595
01:19:09,609 --> 01:19:08,239
map is the map and I'm sorry if you

1596
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:09,619
don't like it but that's the way it is

1597
01:19:15,189 --> 01:19:12,050
that's right well see this is the thing

1598
01:19:18,250 --> 01:19:15,199
and what is most important here Scott

1599
01:19:21,370 --> 01:19:18,260
when when somebody says give me the

1600
01:19:24,850 --> 01:19:21,380
evidence but whatever and then you you

1601
01:19:27,910 --> 01:19:24,860
have corresponding dates you have things

1602
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:27,920
that line up you have names you have the

1603
01:19:32,260 --> 01:19:30,050
maps you have the documents you have

1604
01:19:34,899 --> 01:19:32,270
everything that only points and what you

1605
01:19:40,569 --> 01:19:34,909
have physical structures you have the

1606
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:40,579
the megalithic carvings in stone and I'm

1607
01:19:43,180 --> 01:19:42,290
talking about what's going on the hell

1608
01:19:45,220 --> 01:19:43,190
more do you want

1609
01:19:47,410 --> 01:19:45,230
that's right and then just laid it all

1610
01:19:50,859 --> 01:19:47,420
out there and what's beautiful about

1611
01:19:53,350 --> 01:19:50,869
this is it's all consistent it's all

1612
01:19:56,530 --> 01:19:53,360
tying together now even some of the

1613
01:19:59,020 --> 01:19:56,540
assumptions I made I was proven wrong by

1614
01:20:02,020 --> 01:19:59,030
new information that came in and guess

1615
01:20:03,609 --> 01:20:02,030
what freaking stuff lines up beautifully

1616
01:20:06,159 --> 01:20:03,619
and you know what what do you

1617
01:20:07,779 --> 01:20:06,169
for me and here's the thing that I've

1618
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:07,789
learned cuz I've done forensics for a

1619
01:20:12,219 --> 01:20:08,570
long time

1620
01:20:14,020 --> 01:20:12,229
that's all I've done every day for 35

1621
01:20:16,169 --> 01:20:14,030
years and you know what Jim I'm pretty

1622
01:20:20,649 --> 01:20:16,179
good at it okay

1623
01:20:24,669 --> 01:20:20,659
everything must line up it has to line

1624
01:20:25,389 --> 01:20:24,679
up if it's true and you know what I'll

1625
01:20:27,250 --> 01:20:25,399
be damned

1626
01:20:30,009 --> 01:20:27,260
that's exactly what's happening and it's

1627
01:20:32,469 --> 01:20:30,019
beautiful and it's confirming the work

1628
01:20:35,169 --> 01:20:32,479
we've done in the back in the past it

1629
01:20:37,810 --> 01:20:35,179
look the Runestone is it was a done deal

1630
01:20:39,909 --> 01:20:37,820
a long time ago and now it comes into

1631
01:20:42,819 --> 01:20:39,919
play and it's important and I'll tell

1632
01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:42,829
you why because remember that alignment

1633
01:20:49,449 --> 01:20:45,679
that we had in the first documentary we

1634
01:20:51,699 --> 01:20:49,459
ever did back in 2009 Holy Grail in

1635
01:20:54,129 --> 01:20:51,709
America I had just discovered that

1636
01:20:57,100 --> 01:20:54,139
long-range alignment the Newport Tower

1637
01:20:59,709 --> 01:20:57,110
mm-hmm did the Kensington Runestone

1638
01:21:02,560 --> 01:20:59,719
and the question that I asked in my new

1639
01:21:05,139 --> 01:21:02,570
book which came first was the rune stone

1640
01:21:07,629 --> 01:21:05,149
planted and then somehow they got word

1641
01:21:09,850 --> 01:21:07,639
to the Newport tower guys and they made

1642
01:21:11,500 --> 01:21:09,860
the alignment or the the power guys

1643
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:11,510
built it and then they followed the

1644
01:21:17,159 --> 01:21:13,010
alignment they put the stone where they

1645
01:21:23,469 --> 01:21:17,169
had to I think we now know what happened

1646
01:21:28,089 --> 01:21:23,479
the dates tell us 13 62 13 68 that's

1647
01:21:31,299 --> 01:21:28,099
only six years later six years how long

1648
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:31,309
would it take for one or two guys who

1649
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:33,050
plotted the coordinates of where they

1650
01:21:38,339 --> 01:21:35,570
put the Kensington Runestone to travel

1651
01:21:41,290 --> 01:21:38,349
with their native indigenous brothers

1652
01:21:43,029 --> 01:21:41,300
back to the east coast to the settlement

1653
01:21:45,489 --> 01:21:43,039
that they must have known was there and

1654
01:21:48,399 --> 01:21:45,499
said hey guess what we put the land

1655
01:21:51,790 --> 01:21:48,409
claim right here and they incorporated

1656
01:21:55,449 --> 01:21:51,800
those alignments into the tower and boom

1657
01:21:58,869 --> 01:21:55,459
it lines up you can't make it up the

1658
01:22:00,609 --> 01:21:58,879
data all fits it's a done deal baby I'm

1659
01:22:03,159 --> 01:22:00,619
gonna write about it the next book you

1660
01:22:05,589 --> 01:22:03,169
heard it here first on fade to black

1661
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:05,599
we're not done let's take a break right

1662
01:22:09,919 --> 01:22:08,449
here Scott Wolter that's what I'm

1663
01:22:12,140 --> 01:22:09,929
talking about the passion

1664
01:22:13,700 --> 01:22:12,150
this is fade to black I'm yours Jimmy

1665
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:13,710
Church follow me on twitter at a church

1666
01:22:19,310 --> 01:22:16,530
radio you can follow Scott at real Scott

1667
01:22:20,630 --> 01:22:19,320
Wolter right there on Twitter we'll be

1668
01:22:32,330 --> 01:22:20,640
right back after this short break

1669
01:22:34,260 --> 01:22:32,340
[Music]

1670
01:22:38,370 --> 01:22:34,270
welcome back fade to black

1671
01:22:40,940 --> 01:22:38,380
I am your host Jimmy Church autumn

1672
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:40,950
remind everybody June 26 and 27

1673
01:22:46,229 --> 01:22:44,110
2020 we're heading over to Europe we're

1674
01:22:48,540 --> 01:22:46,239
going to Manchester United Kingdom for

1675
01:22:51,450 --> 01:22:48,550
the awakening conference just go to

1676
01:22:54,180 --> 01:22:51,460
awakening UFO calm the links are at

1677
01:22:56,580 --> 01:22:54,190
Jimmy Church radio now Scott we've got

1678
01:23:01,200 --> 01:22:56,590
to over-unders going with you tonight

1679
01:23:03,420 --> 01:23:01,210
and the first one is the I can't tell

1680
01:23:05,310 --> 01:23:03,430
you it's a secret the over-and-under was

1681
01:23:10,110 --> 01:23:05,320
you were gonna say it four times we got

1682
01:23:13,979 --> 01:23:10,120
two three so so and the other over/under

1683
01:23:18,690 --> 01:23:13,989
is Nantucket and the the good money is

1684
01:23:20,729 --> 01:23:18,700
Nantucket Island right now yeah so it's

1685
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:20,739
not man Tucket okay so we can take

1686
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:33,730
Nantucket off the list how many islands

1687
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:42,570
there are in these goes yes and you know

1688
01:23:49,820 --> 01:23:45,370
don't forget their barrier islands down

1689
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:49,830
in the south and it's anyway so I

1690
01:23:52,890 --> 01:23:51,130
digress

1691
01:23:54,060 --> 01:23:52,900
what do you think about that big reveal

1692
01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:54,070
and what do you think about the

1693
01:23:59,070 --> 01:23:57,040
Kensington okay son I love this

1694
01:23:59,520 --> 01:23:59,080
alignment I love this thesis it makes

1695
01:24:01,500 --> 01:23:59,530
sense

1696
01:24:03,690 --> 01:24:01,510
and there's other reasons why it makes

1697
01:24:04,950 --> 01:24:03,700
sense and I know this is terrible to do

1698
01:24:06,390 --> 01:24:04,960
this to you because I got to get to

1699
01:24:08,729 --> 01:24:06,400
number four might as well just get it

1700
01:24:11,729 --> 01:24:08,739
done now okay all right there are some

1701
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:11,739
other things there's other information

1702
01:24:19,530 --> 01:24:14,650
we have that we have not revealed and it

1703
01:24:24,860 --> 01:24:19,540
supports this okay do we get to do we

1704
01:24:28,650 --> 01:24:24,870
get to 23 oh good no we did not okay

1705
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:28,660
23 is not as exciting but there's a dot

1706
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:31,930
on the west side of aqueduct and it says

1707
01:24:36,900 --> 01:24:34,170
freshwater stream here deep water

1708
01:24:39,990 --> 01:24:36,910
passage in the canal and it turns out

1709
01:24:44,339 --> 01:24:40,000
the isobar depths over on the other side

1710
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:44,349
of the island are very deep so

1711
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:46,570
but you know you got to think about it

1712
01:24:50,729 --> 01:24:48,610
in context at that time I mean these

1713
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:50,739
guys are sailors right this is important

1714
01:24:55,259 --> 01:24:52,570
information sure what they would want to

1715
01:24:57,659 --> 01:24:55,269
know absolutely and you know in context

1716
01:24:59,159 --> 01:24:57,669
when you look at it it makes sense what

1717
01:25:03,509 --> 01:24:59,169
they would be interested in is the

1718
01:25:08,250 --> 01:25:03,519
information that we have on here now the

1719
01:25:11,339 --> 01:25:08,260
as we get to number four and this

1720
01:25:14,969 --> 01:25:11,349
conversation is going to evolve but one

1721
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:14,979
of the things that has to come into play

1722
01:25:24,239 --> 01:25:18,489
here is what the indigenous cultures

1723
01:25:26,729 --> 01:25:24,249
actually know today and and that that is

1724
01:25:28,409 --> 01:25:26,739
also going to be some of the correlation

1725
01:25:33,569 --> 01:25:28,419
right and some of the some of the

1726
01:25:37,919 --> 01:25:33,579
vetting as you connect the dots and you

1727
01:25:40,859 --> 01:25:37,929
are trying to get the connections and

1728
01:25:43,589 --> 01:25:40,869
verifications the indigenous cultures

1729
01:25:46,049 --> 01:25:43,599
are going to come into play right no

1730
01:25:47,790 --> 01:25:46,059
question about it in fact there is one

1731
01:25:51,959 --> 01:25:47,800
of the thing that I would like to tell

1732
01:25:56,250 --> 01:25:51,969
you about that is that is in that that

1733
01:26:00,060 --> 01:25:56,260
that vein and we add something this past

1734
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:00,070
weekend okay let's actually actually go

1735
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:02,530
ahead let's go back let's circle back

1736
01:26:10,250 --> 01:26:05,650
okay let's let's come back to that I

1737
01:26:16,500 --> 01:26:13,020
okay what's number four the the fourth

1738
01:26:18,029 --> 01:26:16,510
reveal oh I thought you meant I was

1739
01:26:22,830 --> 01:26:18,039
going to say I can't tell you about it

1740
01:26:26,009 --> 01:26:22,840
for the fourth talking okay well the the

1741
01:26:27,899 --> 01:26:26,019
fourth revealed well there is one more

1742
01:26:32,339 --> 01:26:27,909
really interesting thing on this nova

1743
01:26:36,359 --> 01:26:32,349
score Narragansett Bay map there is a

1744
01:26:39,089 --> 01:26:36,369
number thirty on here and it's which is

1745
01:26:40,199 --> 01:26:39,099
interesting because where is 24 to 29 I

1746
01:26:42,209 --> 01:26:40,209
have no idea

1747
01:26:44,580 --> 01:26:42,219
it wasn't on either one of those two

1748
01:26:46,379 --> 01:26:44,590
sheets so maybe it's well funded

1749
01:26:49,199 --> 01:26:46,389
somewhere it will show up down the road

1750
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:49,209
the number 30 says we have finished the

1751
01:26:56,189 --> 01:26:52,449
scout the two sides come together at a

1752
01:26:57,060 --> 01:26:56,199
treasure field at the treasure field we

1753
01:27:01,379 --> 01:26:57,070
traveled to this

1754
01:27:04,979 --> 01:27:01,389
Southwest now that point of intersection

1755
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:04,989
where number 30 is is way north of

1756
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:09,610
Narragansett Bay probably another 10

1757
01:27:16,859 --> 01:27:11,770
miles 15 miles north of the very

1758
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:16,869
northern end of the of the bay and to

1759
01:27:21,930 --> 01:27:19,449
the southwest when you look at the map

1760
01:27:25,770 --> 01:27:21,940
there's there's a partial circle drawn

1761
01:27:28,319 --> 01:27:25,780
with that intersection at 30 there the

1762
01:27:30,959 --> 01:27:28,329
the intersection point but there's a dot

1763
01:27:33,450 --> 01:27:30,969
on the southwest quadrant of the circle

1764
01:27:37,859 --> 01:27:33,460
with a line that goes to the southwest

1765
01:27:42,180 --> 01:27:37,869
and on that line it says la place luck

1766
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:42,190
pleasure the place of the treasure and

1767
01:27:53,220 --> 01:27:49,050
there's a dot at a spot so I'm assuming

1768
01:27:57,990 --> 01:27:53,230
that's where they put the treasure now

1769
01:28:04,470 --> 01:27:58,000
what's really really really really

1770
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:04,480
interesting is that spot today to this

1771
01:28:16,850 --> 01:28:09,489
very day do you know what's there I'm

1772
01:28:24,319 --> 01:28:16,860
looking okay I'll tell you where it is

1773
01:28:27,930 --> 01:28:24,329
Cumberland Google it I'm there okay

1774
01:28:30,830 --> 01:28:27,940
there's a monastery there I just looked

1775
01:28:33,780 --> 01:28:30,840
at a picture of it that's crazy

1776
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:33,790
Cistercian monastery right right right

1777
01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:40,050
this day to this day what are the odds

1778
01:28:48,300 --> 01:28:44,800
and that also is the place where there

1779
01:28:52,290 --> 01:28:48,310
is a Cumberland ight mine Cumberland

1780
01:28:54,750 --> 01:28:52,300
ight is the state stone of Rhode Island

1781
01:28:56,310 --> 01:28:54,760
and you might remember on another

1782
01:28:58,740 --> 01:28:56,320
episode of our show I don't remember

1783
01:29:00,600 --> 01:28:58,750
what season it was but we were doing

1784
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:00,610
something on the Newport tower and we

1785
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:03,489
discovered that there was a large piece

1786
01:29:09,689 --> 01:29:07,210
of Cumberland diape stone in the South

1787
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:09,699
column of the Newport Tower that stone

1788
01:29:14,480 --> 01:29:10,770
is highly

1789
01:29:18,140 --> 01:29:14,490
magnetic it contains up to 45% magnetite

1790
01:29:18,970 --> 01:29:18,150
a magnet will just thing attach right to

1791
01:29:23,030 --> 01:29:18,980
it

1792
01:29:24,950 --> 01:29:23,040
that is where that spot is that mine

1793
01:29:28,340 --> 01:29:24,960
were they used to mine it and they would

1794
01:29:32,440 --> 01:29:28,350
smelt it for the iron and that's what

1795
01:29:35,540 --> 01:29:32,450
that Cistercian monastery is to this day

1796
01:29:37,070 --> 01:29:35,550
that is not a coincidence my friend I'm

1797
01:29:42,380 --> 01:29:37,080
looking at it here and what's

1798
01:29:45,770 --> 01:29:42,390
interesting also for me is that the

1799
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:45,780
access not only to Cumberland and

1800
01:29:51,740 --> 01:29:48,210
there's a there's a lake next to the

1801
01:29:55,610 --> 01:29:51,750
monastery there but the access inland

1802
01:30:02,660 --> 01:29:55,620
through rivers and tributaries that are

1803
01:30:05,060 --> 01:30:02,670
right off of the water park it is and

1804
01:30:08,540 --> 01:30:05,070
it's a really really good point you're

1805
01:30:11,390 --> 01:30:08,550
making because the rivers and the in the

1806
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:11,400
lakes and the bays and the oceans those

1807
01:30:15,380 --> 01:30:13,410
were the highways and wrote that these

1808
01:30:20,660 --> 01:30:15,390
guys traveled that's a great point yep

1809
01:30:22,730 --> 01:30:20,670
yep very interesting so you know no I

1810
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:22,740
don't have any illusion that there's

1811
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:25,530
anything there today because if there's

1812
01:30:31,070 --> 01:30:28,410
one thing that the Templars were pretty

1813
01:30:33,140 --> 01:30:31,080
good about is they were they they and I

1814
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:33,150
can tell you this absolutely for certain

1815
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:35,930
they put treasures all over the place

1816
01:30:41,980 --> 01:30:38,730
because we have treasure maps and I have

1817
01:30:46,490 --> 01:30:41,990
not revealed any of those yet but I will

1818
01:30:47,990 --> 01:30:46,500
hopefully on a TV show someday this is

1819
01:30:50,450 --> 01:30:48,000
the content that I want to do on

1820
01:30:53,150 --> 01:30:50,460
television I love doing America on earth

1821
01:30:54,980 --> 01:30:53,160
don't get me wrong but if I had my

1822
01:31:01,340 --> 01:30:54,990
druthers I would do this every episode

1823
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:01,350
and we would find stuff and we we

1824
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:03,810
probably at some point would find a

1825
01:31:08,060 --> 01:31:05,610
treasure did they recover them all I

1826
01:31:10,990 --> 01:31:08,070
don't know I know they recovered a lot

1827
01:31:14,450 --> 01:31:11,000
of them they probably recovered this one

1828
01:31:16,850 --> 01:31:14,460
and I'm sure they got most of them but I

1829
01:31:18,980 --> 01:31:16,860
bet with the sheer number that we know

1830
01:31:19,910 --> 01:31:18,990
about that there's got to be one or two

1831
01:31:22,340 --> 01:31:19,920
still out there

1832
01:31:24,230 --> 01:31:22,350
now did you know something Jim you know

1833
01:31:26,930 --> 01:31:24,240
would be just as good what's

1834
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:26,940
would be an amazing treasure all in

1835
01:31:33,260 --> 01:31:30,210
itself is if we went to one of these

1836
01:31:35,780 --> 01:31:33,270
treasure sites and we found a hole that

1837
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:35,790
had been filled in well anything like

1838
01:31:40,790 --> 01:31:38,010
that yeah I type I totally agree

1839
01:31:41,630 --> 01:31:40,800
anything like that and let's back up for

1840
01:31:47,900 --> 01:31:41,640
a second

1841
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:47,910
and the the the record keeping of this

1842
01:31:52,910 --> 01:31:50,850
and the knowledge of these trips has to

1843
01:31:56,810 --> 01:31:52,920
be documented by the Vatican the Vatican

1844
01:32:00,110 --> 01:31:56,820
had to know what was going on between

1845
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:00,120
and especially at that time period right

1846
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:04,290
the the I disagree I disagree why I won

1847
01:32:09,740 --> 01:32:06,570
the one group that they did not want to

1848
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:09,750
know was the Vatican but but that does

1849
01:32:16,460 --> 01:32:12,330
what I'm saying is that the Vatican had

1850
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:16,470
the knowledge of this stuff not only

1851
01:32:22,580 --> 01:32:20,010
getting to North America and that

1852
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:22,590
something was spirited away in the first

1853
01:32:27,860 --> 01:32:24,930
century BC something that important

1854
01:32:31,550 --> 01:32:27,870
especially documents relating directly

1855
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:31,560
back to Jesus and Mary though you know

1856
01:32:38,770 --> 01:32:36,210
what they were aware of it they were

1857
01:32:43,250 --> 01:32:38,780
aware they have the document in this

1858
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:43,260
according to a letter I received from an

1859
01:32:49,550 --> 01:32:46,290
anonymous source the Vatican had a copy

1860
01:32:51,740 --> 01:32:49,560
of the marriage document in 220 ad in

1861
01:32:54,290 --> 01:32:51,750
the 3rd century they got a copy of it so

1862
01:32:55,790 --> 01:32:54,300
they've known that it was out there but

1863
01:32:58,280 --> 01:32:55,800
there were other copies that were out

1864
01:32:59,900 --> 01:32:58,290
there that they probably went out of

1865
01:33:01,430 --> 01:32:59,910
their way to try to round up but

1866
01:33:04,910 --> 01:33:01,440
apparently this one on Hunter Mountain

1867
01:33:06,890 --> 01:33:04,920
they never got so it was recovered it

1868
01:33:10,340 --> 01:33:06,900
was it was it was taken there in the

1869
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:10,350
first century who brought him there that

1870
01:33:15,230 --> 01:33:12,570
you know I don't know we don't know that

1871
01:33:16,970 --> 01:33:15,240
story but somehow they got there and

1872
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:16,980
they were there for a thousand years and

1873
01:33:22,100 --> 01:33:18,930
then they were recovered by the Templars

1874
01:33:25,010 --> 01:33:22,110
and they were hidden again and but but

1875
01:33:27,470 --> 01:33:25,020
the whole time the Vatican was aware of

1876
01:33:29,060 --> 01:33:27,480
the document because they had a copy of

1877
01:33:31,180 --> 01:33:29,070
it but they didn't know that it was over

1878
01:33:33,340 --> 01:33:31,190
here what does

1879
01:33:35,229 --> 01:33:33,350
have you been able to talk to anybody

1880
01:33:39,250 --> 01:33:35,239
directly at the Vatican about the

1881
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:39,260
Cremona document no I have not I have

1882
01:33:45,630 --> 01:33:41,449
not and you know what they're gonna find

1883
01:33:49,300 --> 01:33:45,640
out and no no bill Jackson's dead and

1884
01:33:51,970 --> 01:33:49,310
the the parts of the die I will tell you

1885
01:33:54,070 --> 01:33:51,980
this the parts of the document that we

1886
01:33:57,459 --> 01:33:54,080
know he pulled out like these two pages

1887
01:33:59,430 --> 01:33:57,469
and like a couple of treasure maps that

1888
01:34:02,560 --> 01:33:59,440
we haven't shown anybody yet

1889
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:02,570
that was the and and the site that and

1890
01:34:07,930 --> 01:34:04,489
the page that had the cipher phrase you

1891
01:34:10,870 --> 01:34:07,940
need to decode but excuse me the whole

1892
01:34:12,430 --> 01:34:10,880
thing he pulled that stuff out and in

1893
01:34:14,590 --> 01:34:12,440
fact the first time I read the

1894
01:34:17,340 --> 01:34:14,600
translated document that bill Jackson

1895
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:17,350
wrote he said the first page was missing

1896
01:34:23,470 --> 01:34:20,930
Baroni he had it he wanted people to

1897
01:34:24,729 --> 01:34:23,480
think it was missing because he didn't

1898
01:34:26,890 --> 01:34:24,739
want to give it to the Vatican and

1899
01:34:29,290 --> 01:34:26,900
without that you can't decode it right

1900
01:34:32,410 --> 01:34:29,300
he didn't give him the treasure maps he

1901
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:32,420
didn't give him these notes that go with

1902
01:34:36,910 --> 01:34:35,330
the maps apparently they got the maps

1903
01:34:38,590 --> 01:34:36,920
they got a lot of other stuff they got a

1904
01:34:41,380 --> 01:34:38,600
list of the stuff that dis suddely

1905
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:41,390
recovered but did were they able to

1906
01:34:45,910 --> 01:34:43,130
translate it I assume they eventually

1907
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:45,920
did figure it out but I think what

1908
01:34:50,620 --> 01:34:48,170
Jackson did and this is what Don said

1909
01:34:53,110 --> 01:34:50,630
was that the reason he disseminated

1910
01:34:56,410 --> 01:34:53,120
these key pieces to his guys in the

1911
01:34:59,590 --> 01:34:56,420
agency is if paul Marcinkus in the

1912
01:35:02,430 --> 01:34:59,600
vatican ever came back and said hey dude

1913
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:02,440
you're missing a few pages here pony up

1914
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:05,090
he could have said well I don't have him

1915
01:35:10,979 --> 01:35:08,570
here but I know how to get him and oh by

1916
01:35:14,170 --> 01:35:10,989
the way it's going to cost you $10,000 I

1917
01:35:16,959 --> 01:35:14,180
really like this bill Jackson guy I wish

1918
01:35:20,380 --> 01:35:16,969
I could have known him and in the story

1919
01:35:23,740 --> 01:35:20,390
of his adventure with this in many ways

1920
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:23,750
parallels my own journey and and how you

1921
01:35:29,290 --> 01:35:26,930
know academia was was and other people

1922
01:35:31,979 --> 01:35:29,300
are just so against this and you know

1923
01:35:34,150 --> 01:35:31,989
they just they attack everything you do

1924
01:35:35,590 --> 01:35:34,160
because for some reason they just don't

1925
01:35:37,810 --> 01:35:35,600
want the truth to come out and for the

1926
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:37,820
life of me I don't know why now I can

1927
01:35:42,490 --> 01:35:40,010
understand why the the Vatican and the

1928
01:35:45,370 --> 01:35:42,500
church wants to hide this stuff I mean

1929
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:45,380
they've been lying to us for you know 17

1930
01:35:50,709 --> 01:35:48,050
year since the council and i seea but

1931
01:35:52,270 --> 01:35:50,719
you know some of these other groups that

1932
01:35:55,510 --> 01:35:52,280
are that are attacking people in

1933
01:35:58,540 --> 01:35:55,520
academia they're not on their side what

1934
01:36:00,939 --> 01:35:58,550
is the problem well I think we know it

1935
01:36:02,950 --> 01:36:00,949
some of the problems are but it's gotten

1936
01:36:05,350 --> 01:36:02,960
to the point now where it's like really

1937
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:05,360
guys do you think anybody is buying your

1938
01:36:11,379 --> 01:36:09,050
BS anymore just stop already and get on

1939
01:36:14,500 --> 01:36:11,389
board you know you got to rewrite your

1940
01:36:19,209 --> 01:36:14,510
papers rewrite them well alright and

1941
01:36:21,370 --> 01:36:19,219
with and with the coastline up and down

1942
01:36:24,129 --> 01:36:21,380
the East Coast and I'm talking about all

1943
01:36:27,399 --> 01:36:24,139
the way to you can go into the Bahamas

1944
01:36:28,990 --> 01:36:27,409
in Puerto Rico but but certainly the

1945
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:29,000
coastline of the United States from

1946
01:36:37,930 --> 01:36:31,370
Florida all the way up to Maine and

1947
01:36:39,550 --> 01:36:37,940
Beyond is is occupied by cultures that

1948
01:36:42,459 --> 01:36:39,560
have been here for thousands of years

1949
01:36:44,830 --> 01:36:42,469
and they are looking out to see they're

1950
01:36:48,340 --> 01:36:44,840
living on the coast that's that's where

1951
01:36:50,050 --> 01:36:48,350
they live they know everything that is

1952
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:50,060
happening on those coasts and if

1953
01:36:58,300 --> 01:36:54,170
somebody came bet that's right so if if

1954
01:37:02,229 --> 01:36:58,310
there was the and it appears to be the

1955
01:37:05,860 --> 01:37:02,239
case that if there was action going on

1956
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:05,870
anywhere they knew about it and they

1957
01:37:11,260 --> 01:37:08,210
possess that knowledge all the way to

1958
01:37:13,510 --> 01:37:11,270
the Kensington Runestone and land grabs

1959
01:37:17,590 --> 01:37:13,520
that are going on a thousand miles to

1960
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:17,600
the west the the indigenous cultures

1961
01:37:22,959 --> 01:37:20,449
knew and assisted and had to have been

1962
01:37:25,419 --> 01:37:22,969
involved with anything that was going on

1963
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:25,429
here under percent you're a hundred

1964
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:28,250
percent right you are and you know what

1965
01:37:33,129 --> 01:37:30,290
that that if I could just interject for

1966
01:37:34,379 --> 01:37:33,139
a sec that brings me to what happened

1967
01:37:37,510 --> 01:37:34,389
this Saturday

1968
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:37,520
just four days ago we had what we called

1969
01:37:43,830 --> 01:37:40,370
the Kensington Runestone summit and this

1970
01:37:48,010 --> 01:37:43,840
was a Masonic event at the Scottish Rite

1971
01:37:50,979 --> 01:37:48,020
temple in in Minneapolis where I you

1972
01:37:53,110 --> 01:37:50,989
know I took my Scottish Rite degrees and

1973
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:53,120
I now participate in the Scottish Rite

1974
01:37:58,270 --> 01:37:55,610
degrees for for the new-new candidates

1975
01:37:59,140 --> 01:37:58,280
but we had a summit and there was 30

1976
01:38:00,910 --> 01:37:59,150
guys and more

1977
01:38:07,270 --> 01:38:00,920
to these guys while all of these guys

1978
01:38:10,780 --> 01:38:07,280
are in the leadership positions of the

1979
01:38:14,860 --> 01:38:10,790
York right bodies and they're all

1980
01:38:19,630 --> 01:38:14,870
Knights Templar and we had myself

1981
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:19,640
we had another brother who actually

1982
01:38:23,979 --> 01:38:21,770
found something that I missed in the

1983
01:38:28,300 --> 01:38:23,989
cryptic code of one of the degrees that

1984
01:38:30,580 --> 01:38:28,310
is part of my new book that details they

1985
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:30,590
Kensington Runestone inscription numbers

1986
01:38:36,399 --> 01:38:33,770
in the degree but then we also had an

1987
01:38:41,860 --> 01:38:36,409
indigenous brother a guy by the name of

1988
01:38:45,450 --> 01:38:41,870
Taylor Keene who is a Harvard graduate

1989
01:38:48,490 --> 01:38:45,460
with an MBA he's a college professor

1990
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:48,500
he's a York write and Scottish right

1991
01:38:56,020 --> 01:38:51,650
Mason he's also a Rosicrucian but more

1992
01:39:00,130 --> 01:38:56,030
importantly he's also a Maday win' he is

1993
01:39:03,459 --> 01:39:00,140
part of the Native American secret

1994
01:39:07,030 --> 01:39:03,469
society of them a day they are the ones

1995
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:07,040
that interacted with the Templars they

1996
01:39:12,070 --> 01:39:08,570
are the ones that shared rituals

1997
01:39:15,820 --> 01:39:12,080
together and brother Taylor was there

1998
01:39:55,010 --> 01:39:15,830
and he gave a lecture about his

1999
01:40:01,810 --> 01:39:58,620
[Music]

2000
01:40:04,149 --> 01:40:01,820
that is why the Templars were so

2001
01:40:06,399 --> 01:40:04,159
successful on this continent that is why

2002
01:40:09,399 --> 01:40:06,409
they were able to do all this stuff that

2003
01:40:11,470 --> 01:40:09,409
I claim that archeologists heads just

2004
01:40:13,029 --> 01:40:11,480
explode because they know nothing about

2005
01:40:18,700 --> 01:40:13,039
it

2006
01:40:22,029 --> 01:40:18,710
into the batter's box let alone the

2007
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:22,039
first base but now what's happening is

2008
01:40:27,669 --> 01:40:23,840
the indigenous people are starting to

2009
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:27,679
step up and say it's time to share what

2010
01:40:33,959 --> 01:40:30,650
we know and brother Taylor was the first

2011
01:40:36,609 --> 01:40:33,969
one to come there and everybody was just

2012
01:40:39,189 --> 01:40:36,619
transfixed by what he had to say and

2013
01:40:41,410 --> 01:40:39,199
then I finished it off and I laid out

2014
01:40:43,689 --> 01:40:41,420
some of this stuff I laid out some other

2015
01:40:47,799 --> 01:40:43,699
stuff I can't tell you about yet and I

2016
01:40:51,339 --> 01:40:47,809
told those guys I said guys this is our

2017
01:40:53,529 --> 01:40:51,349
history this is the knowledge that was

2018
01:40:56,319 --> 01:40:53,539
passed on to our founding fathers they

2019
01:40:59,319 --> 01:40:56,329
said nothing about it they just finished

2020
01:41:02,410 --> 01:40:59,329
the job that these Templars started with

2021
01:41:05,399 --> 01:41:02,420
that land claim in 1362 and that's why I

2022
01:41:07,959 --> 01:41:05,409
say now and I'm gonna say in Los Angeles

2023
01:41:13,629 --> 01:41:07,969
that the founding of this country did

2024
01:41:17,140 --> 01:41:13,639
not start in 1776 it started in 1362 and

2025
01:41:19,839 --> 01:41:17,150
now we can add 1368 to that chronologic

2026
01:41:21,850 --> 01:41:19,849
dates but that's what happened and you

2027
01:41:22,270 --> 01:41:21,860
know what you can argue with me all you

2028
01:41:24,279 --> 01:41:22,280
want

2029
01:41:27,430 --> 01:41:24,289
in all those skeptics and all those

2030
01:41:29,890 --> 01:41:27,440
deniers and haters can try to attack

2031
01:41:32,109 --> 01:41:29,900
this good luck trying to attack the

2032
01:41:37,149 --> 01:41:32,119
indigenous people when they speak up and

2033
01:41:42,759 --> 01:41:37,159
say yes it happened is there

2034
01:41:45,729 --> 01:41:42,769
do you anticipate a point where as this

2035
01:41:48,430 --> 01:41:45,739
is discussed in in a public forum

2036
01:41:53,109 --> 01:41:48,440
certainly like we are doing now where

2037
01:41:58,060 --> 01:41:53,119
somebody comes forward from a tribe and

2038
01:42:01,120 --> 01:41:58,070
says hey I was given this this was

2039
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:01,130
handed down from generation to

2040
01:42:09,939 --> 01:42:06,050
generation and here it is yes that that

2041
01:42:12,220 --> 01:42:09,949
is exactly what we're hoping for and you

2042
01:42:14,259 --> 01:42:12,230
know what Jim it's gonna happen because

2043
01:42:16,689 --> 01:42:14,269
I know that stuff is out there I've been

2044
01:42:18,250 --> 01:42:16,699
told that stuff is out there but you

2045
01:42:20,740 --> 01:42:18,260
have to understand something those

2046
01:42:23,500 --> 01:42:20,750
people within these indigenous societies

2047
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:23,510
that have been given you know they've

2048
01:42:26,979 --> 01:42:26,090
been entrusted with these artifacts mrs.

2049
01:42:30,850 --> 01:42:26,989
D

2050
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:30,860
profound stuff they're not just going to

2051
01:42:36,790 --> 01:42:33,890
lay it out to anybody you have got to

2052
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:36,800
prove yourself worthy before they're

2053
01:42:41,890 --> 01:42:40,250
even going to think about it and one of

2054
01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:41,900
the things I think that would go a long

2055
01:42:48,940 --> 01:42:45,440
way to that and this is what I know

2056
01:42:52,690 --> 01:42:48,950
they're waiting for somebody in

2057
01:42:54,250 --> 01:42:52,700
authority in this country and up in

2058
01:42:58,240 --> 01:42:54,260
Canada but I think they've already done

2059
01:43:00,510 --> 01:42:58,250
it it's our turn now we have got to

2060
01:43:02,740 --> 01:43:00,520
acknowledge the atrocities of the past

2061
01:43:05,860 --> 01:43:02,750
for the way these people were treated

2062
01:43:09,820 --> 01:43:05,870
and somebody needs to sincerely

2063
01:43:13,870 --> 01:43:09,830
apologize and it doesn't mean you got to

2064
01:43:16,140 --> 01:43:13,880
write a check right they just want

2065
01:43:21,100 --> 01:43:16,150
someone to say hey this happened

2066
01:43:22,570 --> 01:43:21,110
we're sorry let's move forward and I

2067
01:43:24,910 --> 01:43:22,580
think it's as simple as that

2068
01:43:27,250 --> 01:43:24,920
and once that happens I think we'll be

2069
01:43:29,620 --> 01:43:27,260
amazed at what they know

2070
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:29,630
I'm already amazed and I know there's

2071
01:43:31,750 --> 01:43:31,010
more to come but I think that's what

2072
01:43:37,390 --> 01:43:31,760
it'll take

2073
01:43:40,090 --> 01:43:37,400
well I can envision something as as

2074
01:43:42,459 --> 01:43:40,100
simple as this because things were

2075
01:43:45,190 --> 01:43:42,469
traded we're not talking about dollar

2076
01:43:49,390 --> 01:43:45,200
bills obviously back then but things

2077
01:43:52,450 --> 01:43:49,400
were traded and and that's the way the

2078
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:52,460
things were done there was a very fair

2079
01:43:58,360 --> 01:43:55,730
barter system that was going on and I

2080
01:44:03,100 --> 01:43:58,370
can I can imagine something like it

2081
01:44:05,290 --> 01:44:03,110
could be an exotic sword or something

2082
01:44:07,630 --> 01:44:05,300
like that it could be a swore right but

2083
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:07,640
it could up it could be clothing it

2084
01:44:14,440 --> 01:44:09,410
could be boots it could be books it

2085
01:44:16,780 --> 01:44:14,450
could be a carpet could be anything that

2086
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:16,790
was that was you know traded and

2087
01:44:23,170 --> 01:44:21,050
exchanged and and saved you know and and

2088
01:44:25,540 --> 01:44:23,180
handed down from family to family and

2089
01:44:29,709 --> 01:44:25,550
and this is this is the other point that

2090
01:44:31,780 --> 01:44:29,719
I think is is very very significant the

2091
01:44:35,709 --> 01:44:31,790
generations that we're talking about

2092
01:44:38,340 --> 01:44:35,719
here it's not that great of a time it's

2093
01:44:40,540 --> 01:44:38,350
not that extended if you just go with

2094
01:44:45,310 --> 01:44:40,550
100 year increments

2095
01:44:47,910 --> 01:44:45,320
now we're talking about 7/8 hard

2096
01:44:50,650 --> 01:44:47,920
generations ago if you go to

2097
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:50,660
parent-child generations then we're

2098
01:44:55,480 --> 01:44:55,010
talking about you know 10 12 generations

2099
01:44:59,950 --> 01:44:55,490
ago

2100
01:45:02,260 --> 01:44:59,960
that's not much not it really isn't and

2101
01:45:04,570 --> 01:45:02,270
you know Jim's sort of coming full

2102
01:45:06,340 --> 01:45:04,580
circle with this think you know as far

2103
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:06,350
as the indigenous people go the ones

2104
01:45:11,140 --> 01:45:09,170
that I've talked to the Templars were

2105
01:45:14,340 --> 01:45:11,150
like well they were just like yesterday

2106
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:14,350
there were people coming here a long

2107
01:45:18,820 --> 01:45:16,850
time and time and time again going back

2108
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:18,830
hundreds and thousands of years and they

2109
01:45:23,470 --> 01:45:21,170
know about that the Templars are just

2110
01:45:27,340 --> 01:45:23,480
the last ones to come before the

2111
01:45:30,220 --> 01:45:27,350
colonists came so this is like yesterday

2112
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:30,230
to them for their story keepers and and

2113
01:45:35,500 --> 01:45:33,170
and the ones that are you know entrusted

2114
01:45:39,480 --> 01:45:35,510
with with you know preserving the

2115
01:45:42,340 --> 01:45:39,490
stories they they know these guys well

2116
01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:42,350
so keep that in mind because there's all

2117
01:45:45,790 --> 01:45:43,760
kinds of people we've talked about this

2118
01:45:50,470 --> 01:45:45,800
before these are the johnny-come-lately

2119
01:45:51,850 --> 01:45:50,480
Zahn you know in in one respect because

2120
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:51,860
there were many that came before them

2121
01:45:57,610 --> 01:45:54,050
and they know all about them if

2122
01:45:59,950 --> 01:45:57,620
something like that surfaced I mean the

2123
01:46:03,490 --> 01:45:59,960
talk about the Holy Grail right if

2124
01:46:08,650 --> 01:46:03,500
something like that actually surfaced

2125
01:46:14,260 --> 01:46:08,660
right a 12th century sword with that not

2126
01:46:17,010 --> 01:46:14,270
only is is dateable but with a family

2127
01:46:21,430 --> 01:46:17,020
name on it you know something absolutely

2128
01:46:23,770 --> 01:46:21,440
nutty if that surface is what happens

2129
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:23,780
people say oh well they just de piel de

2130
01:46:27,220 --> 01:46:25,610
that's really didn't have that don't

2131
01:46:30,070 --> 01:46:27,230
they'll find a way to complain right

2132
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:30,080
it's never enough it's never enough it's

2133
01:46:34,060 --> 01:46:31,850
never enough so you're never going to

2134
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:34,070
please them and look I gave up trying to

2135
01:46:39,190 --> 01:46:37,250
please academics and skeptics there's

2136
01:46:41,500 --> 01:46:39,200
nothing wrong with somebody asking

2137
01:46:42,700 --> 01:46:41,510
questions but on the other hand you know

2138
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:42,710
what you have to come up with an

2139
01:46:46,750 --> 01:46:44,810
alternate theory too and you have to

2140
01:46:48,970 --> 01:46:46,760
have evidence to support your theory and

2141
01:46:52,510 --> 01:46:48,980
just saying that it's a hoax is good

2142
01:46:52,710 --> 01:46:52,520
enough anybody can say that right can

2143
01:46:56,190 --> 01:46:52,720
you

2144
01:46:58,410 --> 01:46:56,200
do me a favor is Jan right there yes

2145
01:47:01,020 --> 01:46:58,420
yeah ask Jan if you can stay up late and

2146
01:47:11,310 --> 01:47:01,030
do one more segment of overtime get her

2147
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:11,320
promised hold on one sec hey Jan how are

2148
01:47:20,490 --> 01:47:15,850
you I'm doing great Jen can I keep your

2149
01:47:23,330 --> 01:47:20,500
husband for one more segment yeah that's

2150
01:47:26,250 --> 01:47:23,340
what I'm talking about see we know who

2151
01:47:27,150 --> 01:47:26,260
who the boss is Jan I just had to go

2152
01:47:31,770 --> 01:47:27,160
straight to the source

2153
01:47:35,310 --> 01:47:31,780
we're going to take a break let's take

2154
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:35,320
our break right here hey Jan say gobekli

2155
01:47:39,810 --> 01:47:37,050
tepe for me just say it

2156
01:47:42,150 --> 01:47:39,820
Gobekli Tepe that's what I'm talking

2157
01:47:43,020 --> 01:47:42,160
about we'll be right back this is fade

2158
01:47:46,350 --> 01:47:43,030
to black

2159
01:47:48,570 --> 01:47:46,360
we're gonna go into some overtime with

2160
01:47:51,260 --> 01:47:48,580
Scott Wolter on the GameChanger network

2161
01:48:03,580 --> 01:47:51,270
and kg RA the planets stay right there

2162
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:07,550
welcome back paid the black doing a

2163
01:48:13,610 --> 01:48:09,810
little overtime we got permission from

2164
01:48:15,470 --> 01:48:13,620
Jan with Scott Wolter he's coming out to

2165
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:15,480
Los Angeles February 7th through the

2166
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:18,690
10th to the conscious life Expo and very

2167
01:48:26,540 --> 01:48:20,730
excited about that and Scott once again

2168
01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:26,550
I haven't I haven't I haven't introduced

2169
01:48:31,700 --> 01:48:30,960
you at a conference for five years can

2170
01:48:46,070 --> 01:48:31,710
you believe that

2171
01:48:49,580 --> 01:48:46,080
is that right that long right well we

2172
01:48:51,910 --> 01:48:49,590
talk so much and and it's just it's

2173
01:48:56,090 --> 01:48:51,920
amazing how the time blows by and

2174
01:49:01,820 --> 01:48:56,100
jumping in overtime want to can kind of

2175
01:49:04,780 --> 01:49:01,830
hit you with this I am we but myself

2176
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:04,790
personally and of course yourself is

2177
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:08,010
that I feel the frustration when it

2178
01:49:16,150 --> 01:49:13,050
comes to academia historians historian

2179
01:49:19,820 --> 01:49:16,160
historical documents history classes

2180
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:19,830
what is presented out there as as fact

2181
01:49:27,770 --> 01:49:24,330
and it borders on dogma in that you're

2182
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:27,780
hit with this over and over again that

2183
01:49:31,910 --> 01:49:29,730
you may not believe it but you just

2184
01:49:34,430 --> 01:49:31,920
you're tired of the beat down and you

2185
01:49:39,169 --> 01:49:34,440
accept it as truth and I want to give

2186
01:49:42,919 --> 01:49:39,179
you an example of that I I have held

2187
01:49:47,209 --> 01:49:42,929
back on this for for many years this one

2188
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:47,219
fact and I stumbled upon it and I look

2189
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:48,810
and I thought to myself wait a minute

2190
01:49:53,750 --> 01:49:50,850
I've never heard this in all of the

2191
01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:53,760
documentaries that I have seen for

2192
01:49:59,570 --> 01:49:57,090
decades on the great pyramid and on Giza

2193
01:50:01,550 --> 01:49:59,580
and over and over again and great

2194
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:01,560
researchers out there like John Anthony

2195
01:50:06,620 --> 01:50:03,330
West and Robert Schoch and Robert Bauval

2196
01:50:07,930 --> 01:50:06,630
and Graham Hancock and you know the it

2197
01:50:12,709 --> 01:50:07,940
just goes on and on

2198
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:12,719
Brian forests or well is is this that

2199
01:50:16,440 --> 01:50:15,570
the Great Pyramid I'm not going to go

2200
01:50:18,180 --> 01:50:16,450
into the long

2201
01:50:19,650 --> 01:50:18,190
version of this I'm gonna present you

2202
01:50:22,650 --> 01:50:19,660
with the short version which is the

2203
01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:22,660
Great Pyramid documented and we have

2204
01:50:26,700 --> 01:50:24,400
been told over and over again was built

2205
01:50:29,340 --> 01:50:26,710
over 20 year period with two and a half

2206
01:50:32,250 --> 01:50:29,350
million limestone blocks blah blah blah

2207
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:32,260
right over and over again and that it

2208
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:40,090
was built between 2025 80 BC and 2560 BC

2209
01:50:46,950 --> 01:50:44,050
that 20 year period now as unbelievable

2210
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:46,960
as that is for us to digest that's

2211
01:50:51,090 --> 01:50:49,210
something that huge and that big was

2212
01:50:53,010 --> 01:50:51,100
built and those blocks were cut and

2213
01:50:56,780 --> 01:50:53,020
placed every two and a half minutes for

2214
01:50:59,760 --> 01:50:56,790
20 years is a crazy thing but we've just

2215
01:51:03,360 --> 01:50:59,770
accepted the beatdown but what they

2216
01:51:06,540 --> 01:51:03,370
don't tell you is that the middle pier

2217
01:51:08,940 --> 01:51:06,550
pyramid there's three there that the

2218
01:51:11,190 --> 01:51:08,950
middle period pyramid which is just as

2219
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:11,200
big the same two and a half million

2220
01:51:18,390 --> 01:51:14,170
blocks it's four hundred and fifty five

2221
01:51:23,370 --> 01:51:18,400
feet tall was built at the exact same

2222
01:51:27,810 --> 01:51:23,380
time they didn't build one pyramid in 20

2223
01:51:31,980 --> 01:51:27,820
years they built two they don't tell you

2224
01:51:34,230 --> 01:51:31,990
that because they can't do you

2225
01:51:36,540 --> 01:51:34,240
understand what I'm saying of course I

2226
01:51:38,460 --> 01:51:36,550
do it because little what it'll do is

2227
01:51:41,730 --> 01:51:38,470
it'll destroy their own narrative that's

2228
01:51:43,790 --> 01:51:41,740
right it completely breaks it down we

2229
01:51:48,780 --> 01:51:43,800
have a hard enough time digesting and

2230
01:51:52,830 --> 01:51:48,790
believing the 20-year pill that is the

2231
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:52,840
Great Pyramid but now if it was revealed

2232
01:51:57,660 --> 01:51:55,210
and talked about that there was two

2233
01:52:00,810 --> 01:51:57,670
built at the same time now it's not

2234
01:52:05,090 --> 01:52:00,820
forty thousand workers it's 80 thousand

2235
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:05,100
and and and when you think about this

2236
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:08,530
80,000 people committed to building two

2237
01:52:17,490 --> 01:52:12,010
pyramids over 20 years the population of

2238
01:52:21,870 --> 01:52:17,500
Egypt at 25 80 BC was between a half a

2239
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:21,880
million and 750,000 people in the entire

2240
01:52:29,790 --> 01:52:25,210
country so what that would suggest is

2241
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:29,800
that of 20% of the entire

2242
01:52:36,510 --> 01:52:32,650
population was tied up for 20 years

2243
01:52:39,270 --> 01:52:36,520
building two pyramids impossible and not

2244
01:52:42,810 --> 01:52:39,280
only is it 20% of the population but it

2245
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:42,820
would strongly suggest that every adult

2246
01:52:53,490 --> 01:52:50,130
male in the country that was there every

2247
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:53,500
single one of them and it would destroy

2248
01:52:59,310 --> 01:52:56,650
everything so therefore it's not talked

2249
01:53:03,049 --> 01:52:59,320
about and that's the frustration and

2250
01:53:07,589 --> 01:53:03,059
that's just one example of what our

2251
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:07,599
thousands of lost history situations

2252
01:53:13,919 --> 01:53:10,290
that they can't talk about they cannot

2253
01:53:16,020 --> 01:53:13,929
and they won't oh and and to say nothing

2254
01:53:17,490 --> 01:53:16,030
of the fact that if you've got I mean

2255
01:53:20,930 --> 01:53:17,500
let's use the example of the Knights

2256
01:53:23,729 --> 01:53:20,940
Templar right for each Templar Knight

2257
01:53:27,149 --> 01:53:23,739
within an order they estimate that they

2258
01:53:30,060 --> 01:53:27,159
had anywhere from 15 to 20 support

2259
01:53:33,089 --> 01:53:30,070
brothers lay brothers that would take

2260
01:53:36,270 --> 01:53:33,099
care of the horses would grow food would

2261
01:53:40,020 --> 01:53:36,280
be involved in you know the daily work

2262
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:40,030
of up keeping everything that was

2263
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:42,010
necessary for a knight you know to make

2264
01:53:46,350 --> 01:53:44,530
swords and and and the clothing and the

2265
01:53:49,830 --> 01:53:46,360
chainmail and all this stuff they

2266
01:53:51,569 --> 01:53:49,840
estimated anywhere from 15 to 20 lay

2267
01:53:53,850 --> 01:53:51,579
brothers that would support their

2268
01:53:56,359 --> 01:53:53,860
activities okay so if you've got these

2269
01:54:00,089 --> 01:53:56,369
people building the pyramids in Giza

2270
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:00,099
they got to eat they got to sleep they

2271
01:54:03,810 --> 01:54:02,530
have to they have to have durable lives

2272
01:54:06,930 --> 01:54:03,820
some of them might have even been

2273
01:54:10,140 --> 01:54:06,940
married and had children and you know it

2274
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:10,150
would take a village to sometime een a

2275
01:54:15,569 --> 01:54:12,130
village you know just metaphorically but

2276
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:15,579
I mean in reality it would take how many

2277
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:17,650
times the number of people that were

2278
01:54:23,220 --> 01:54:19,650
doing the work to support that effort so

2279
01:54:26,459 --> 01:54:23,230
it doesn't make any sense but but all of

2280
01:54:29,100 --> 01:54:26,469
that you know is really thrown out the

2281
01:54:30,990 --> 01:54:29,110
window already because the work of guys

2282
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:31,000
like Robert Schoch who are pushing back

2283
01:54:36,620 --> 01:54:33,130
the construction of the pyramids and

2284
01:54:38,669 --> 01:54:36,630
certainly the Sphinx which many many

2285
01:54:41,660 --> 01:54:38,679
Egyptologists say is contemporaneous

2286
01:54:43,679 --> 01:54:41,670
with the pyramids back you know to the

2287
01:54:46,169 --> 01:54:43,689
younger driest period

2288
01:54:49,469 --> 01:54:46,179
ten twelve thirteen thousand years ago

2289
01:54:52,169 --> 01:54:49,479
those pyramids aren't twenty whatever BC

2290
01:54:54,899 --> 01:54:52,179
they're two and three times older than

2291
01:54:57,179 --> 01:54:54,909
that so how many people did you have

2292
01:54:59,640 --> 01:54:57,189
back then was it more or was it less

2293
01:55:01,679 --> 01:54:59,650
right oh this whole thing that at this

2294
01:55:04,679 --> 01:55:01,689
point you're trying to make I think is

2295
01:55:07,500 --> 01:55:04,689
even worse than the example you you gave

2296
01:55:09,750 --> 01:55:07,510
it's more impossible to make that

2297
01:55:12,390 --> 01:55:09,760
argument and and sustain it it's just

2298
01:55:18,179 --> 01:55:12,400
it's just not tenable period and the

2299
01:55:21,689 --> 01:55:18,189
only way to start to accept I mean if

2300
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:21,699
you are going to buy these kinds of

2301
01:55:25,709 --> 01:55:24,010
narratives that there was a hundred

2302
01:55:28,739 --> 01:55:25,719
thousand people that that built the

2303
01:55:33,989 --> 01:55:28,749
pyramids it didn't happen then there had

2304
01:55:37,770 --> 01:55:33,999
to have been a culture that was not only

2305
01:55:40,679 --> 01:55:37,780
advanced but populated and organized

2306
01:55:42,899 --> 01:55:40,689
right where they had agriculture they

2307
01:55:46,799 --> 01:55:42,909
had organization they had a government

2308
01:55:51,299 --> 01:55:46,809
they probably had a religion and they

2309
01:55:53,729 --> 01:55:51,309
were able to do those things that were

2310
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:53,739
needed and I'm talking about the

2311
01:56:02,819 --> 01:55:57,130
engineering the quarrying and this is

2312
01:56:05,989 --> 01:56:02,829
before the Iron Age right yeah this is

2313
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:05,999
without steel this was with allegedly

2314
01:56:10,469 --> 01:56:09,010
without the wheel that they did this

2315
01:56:13,140 --> 01:56:10,479
with stone tools

2316
01:56:14,549 --> 01:56:13,150
maybe copper chisels I don't believe

2317
01:56:16,799 --> 01:56:14,559
they didn't have the wheel I don't

2318
01:56:20,699 --> 01:56:16,809
believe that that is me that's right I

2319
01:56:24,239 --> 01:56:20,709
mean it's there to to do this kind of

2320
01:56:26,339 --> 01:56:24,249
work we need to start to accept things

2321
01:56:29,339 --> 01:56:26,349
that are outside of the box that just

2322
01:56:31,199 --> 01:56:29,349
maybe this other stuff was going on

2323
01:56:33,870 --> 01:56:31,209
and there was another culture there that

2324
01:56:36,299 --> 01:56:33,880
was involved that did this because the

2325
01:56:38,669 --> 01:56:36,309
population and the numbers in the time

2326
01:56:41,790 --> 01:56:38,679
table and the technology that you are

2327
01:56:50,669 --> 01:56:41,800
presenting to us just us and work it

2328
01:56:52,589 --> 01:56:50,679
doesn't work I'm waiting oh I'm sorry I

2329
01:56:56,070 --> 01:56:52,599
said it just doesn't it just doesn't

2330
01:56:59,190 --> 01:56:56,080
work no it doesn't work and

2331
01:57:01,740 --> 01:56:59,200
it'll never work so you know the horse

2332
01:57:04,110 --> 01:57:01,750
is dead get off and and let's try

2333
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:04,120
something different I mean that's that's

2334
01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:05,890
what I have to say and I maybe it's

2335
01:57:10,230 --> 01:57:07,570
maybe it's a little bit harsh but I'm

2336
01:57:12,210 --> 01:57:10,240
sorry Jim if the data doesn't fit then

2337
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:12,220
you know you have to you have to try

2338
01:57:17,310 --> 01:57:14,290
something else and that's not the right

2339
01:57:21,150 --> 01:57:17,320
answer and the the other point is

2340
01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:21,160
something that you have been looking at

2341
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:27,090
and following in your research is a

2342
01:57:35,460 --> 01:57:31,650
transoceanic conversation that's where

2343
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:35,470
when we look at history and not only

2344
01:57:41,850 --> 01:57:39,610
archaeology but anthropology and and the

2345
01:57:44,220 --> 01:57:41,860
technology and the organization of

2346
01:57:48,050 --> 01:57:44,230
different societies and cultures

2347
01:57:53,190 --> 01:57:48,060
if we go with the Orthodox views on this

2348
01:57:56,460 --> 01:57:53,200
that the transoceanic answers didn't

2349
01:57:58,320 --> 01:57:56,470
happen until much later that everything

2350
01:58:01,740 --> 01:57:58,330
was done by the shoreline in the

2351
01:58:04,290 --> 01:58:01,750
Mediterranean right no no you know some

2352
01:58:11,690 --> 01:58:04,300
Jim in the Cremona document we have a

2353
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:11,700
page that shows a picture of Amenhotep

2354
01:58:17,630 --> 01:58:14,490
believe it's Amenhotep you might have to

2355
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:17,640
hold off on that I'll double-check but

2356
01:58:26,670 --> 01:58:21,490
it's it's an obelisk that was in Egypt

2357
01:58:30,210 --> 01:58:26,680
and Luxor and the top of that obelisk

2358
01:58:30,990 --> 01:58:30,220
it shows the pyramidion at the top

2359
01:58:34,290 --> 01:58:31,000
mm-hmm

2360
01:58:37,530 --> 01:58:34,300
was hollow it came off and it was Hollow

2361
01:58:43,650 --> 01:58:37,540
and inside of it were maps of the world

2362
01:58:49,950 --> 01:58:43,660
and this is going back 3,000 BP now that

2363
01:58:52,290 --> 01:58:49,960
particular obelisk was taken down and

2364
01:58:58,170 --> 01:58:52,300
brought to Europe and you know where it

2365
01:59:01,920 --> 01:58:58,180
is now Germany no Rome Paris France

2366
01:59:03,330 --> 01:59:01,930
France and I want to go if you want to

2367
01:59:07,230 --> 01:59:03,340
just Google real quick

2368
01:59:07,709 --> 01:59:07,240
but hold on each pyramid in these Paris

2369
01:59:10,020 --> 01:59:07,719
France

2370
01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:10,030
hold on Scott each one of the cities

2371
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:13,840
that I just named has like a 200 ton

2372
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:17,010
obelisk in it that came from Egypt right

2373
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:19,810
right now we have one in Central Park

2374
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:21,810
there's one in Central Park which is

2375
01:59:29,430 --> 01:59:26,050
mind-boggling Lee blowing my craziness

2376
01:59:31,590 --> 01:59:29,440
when you see it but is so freakin cool

2377
01:59:36,479 --> 01:59:31,600
we did it we've done two episodes where

2378
01:59:38,729 --> 01:59:36,489
we use that as you know is for scenes

2379
01:59:42,660 --> 01:59:38,739
that we shot in in the in the episode

2380
01:59:46,740 --> 01:59:42,670
but if you if you don't mind Google that

2381
01:59:48,810 --> 01:59:46,750
obelisk in Paris pull up a picture of it

2382
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:48,820
I looked at it two days ago in a

2383
01:59:57,479 --> 01:59:51,610
documentary and I watched a documentary

2384
02:00:03,709 --> 01:59:57,489
about that obelisk you know the top of

2385
02:00:06,390 --> 02:00:03,719
that obelisk was stolen like 300 BC and

2386
02:00:09,090 --> 02:00:06,400
okay so look at look at the picture what

2387
02:00:18,540 --> 02:00:09,100
is the top I'm looking at it now hang on

2388
02:00:21,870 --> 02:00:18,550
uh different right yes because the top

2389
02:00:24,300 --> 02:00:21,880
is gone now you see in the Cremona

2390
02:00:26,790 --> 02:00:24,310
document it says it was stolen because

2391
02:00:29,729 --> 02:00:26,800
there were maps of the OL of the entire

2392
02:00:33,479 --> 02:00:29,739
world now it's very interesting we're

2393
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:33,489
inside and that was stolen in 300 BC and

2394
02:00:37,850 --> 02:00:35,890
it just turns out that obelisk today

2395
02:00:40,979 --> 02:00:37,860
doesn't have a top it's got a gold top

2396
02:00:44,790 --> 02:00:40,989
isn't that interesting and this is the

2397
02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:44,800
thing that that that obelisk in in Paris

2398
02:00:49,500 --> 02:00:47,650
when Watson this documentary the other

2399
02:00:51,780 --> 02:00:49,510
day and I'm watching people standing

2400
02:00:55,110 --> 02:00:51,790
next to it walk you don't get the size

2401
02:00:59,820 --> 02:00:55,120
of it you don't have a sense of it's

2402
02:01:03,450 --> 02:00:59,830
eight stories tall one piece of red

2403
02:01:04,290 --> 02:01:03,460
granite that's right now back to my

2404
02:01:09,510 --> 02:01:04,300
point

2405
02:01:13,350 --> 02:01:09,520
a transoceanic culture had to exist with

2406
02:01:16,669 --> 02:01:13,360
boats big enough to put that on it and

2407
02:01:19,350 --> 02:01:16,679
not sink

2408
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:19,360
that's all it's it's hard enough to do

2409
02:01:26,100 --> 02:01:22,570
today all right that is something that

2410
02:01:30,569 --> 02:01:26,110
they cannot break it the ship was big

2411
02:01:32,609 --> 02:01:30,579
enough not to flex and now it obviously

2412
02:01:35,939 --> 02:01:32,619
made the trip because there it is right

2413
02:01:39,419 --> 02:01:35,949
that's right that's right it's in it's

2414
02:01:41,100 --> 02:01:39,429
incredible and so you know getting back

2415
02:01:44,699 --> 02:01:41,110
to your whole point about these you know

2416
02:01:46,979 --> 02:01:44,709
this this this academic narrative that

2417
02:01:49,100 --> 02:01:46,989
they want us to try to you know they

2418
02:01:51,779 --> 02:01:49,110
keep shoving down our throats it's like

2419
02:01:53,689 --> 02:01:51,789
where's the pushback I mean it seems to

2420
02:01:56,069 --> 02:01:53,699
me like there's there's there's

2421
02:01:57,899 --> 02:01:56,079
relatively few people that are fighting

2422
02:02:01,439 --> 02:01:57,909
back but I've also talked to people that

2423
02:02:03,330 --> 02:02:01,449
say that that you know that position

2424
02:02:05,939 --> 02:02:03,340
that they've held onto for so long is

2425
02:02:08,219 --> 02:02:05,949
slowly crumbling and it's it isn't

2426
02:02:10,529 --> 02:02:08,229
tenable and it is going to go away and

2427
02:02:14,669 --> 02:02:10,539
and things like these documents that are

2428
02:02:17,370 --> 02:02:14,679
coming out that are proving that that

2429
02:02:20,339 --> 02:02:17,380
it's just silly to hold on to that and

2430
02:02:22,709 --> 02:02:20,349
it's time to let go you know and and and

2431
02:02:26,790 --> 02:02:22,719
I hope it happens in my lifetime because

2432
02:02:31,020 --> 02:02:26,800
it's just it's it's stifles progress it

2433
02:02:35,909 --> 02:02:31,030
it demoralizes people and it's it's just

2434
02:02:40,709 --> 02:02:35,919
it's just wrong we just enough done and

2435
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:40,719
and so what is it that we need and

2436
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:42,010
that's what I was talking about with

2437
02:02:47,060 --> 02:02:44,530
your research it's certainly bringing up

2438
02:02:51,750 --> 02:02:47,070
the Paris obelisk is is something that

2439
02:02:54,799 --> 02:02:51,760
can be used as evidence but for you what

2440
02:02:58,350 --> 02:02:54,809
is the best example that these

2441
02:03:02,719 --> 02:02:58,360
transoceanic opportunities were

2442
02:03:06,120 --> 02:03:02,729
happening with regularity and with ease

2443
02:03:08,100 --> 02:03:06,130
well I if you want to go back to what

2444
02:03:10,620 --> 02:03:08,110
was probably some of the earlier stuff I

2445
02:03:12,419 --> 02:03:10,630
would say the copper culture and you

2446
02:03:13,770 --> 02:03:12,429
know I've had arguments with the

2447
02:03:15,689 --> 02:03:13,780
scholars that say well there's no

2448
02:03:17,429 --> 02:03:15,699
evidence that that there were people

2449
02:03:17,790 --> 02:03:17,439
coming here to mine copper and I go

2450
02:03:20,069 --> 02:03:17,800
really

2451
02:03:24,419 --> 02:03:20,079
or what about the tens of thousands of

2452
02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:24,429
of copper mines that we we got holes in

2453
02:03:29,129 --> 02:03:26,050
the ground here in northern Minnesota

2454
02:03:31,590 --> 02:03:29,139
Isle rile in the U P of Michigan

2455
02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:31,600
in other parts of northern Canada that

2456
02:03:35,700 --> 02:03:33,730
can be dated back as far as six to eight

2457
02:03:37,830 --> 02:03:35,710
thousand years ago somebody was digging

2458
02:03:39,450 --> 02:03:37,840
up there and the indigenous people say

2459
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:39,460
that that wasn't us we didn't do that

2460
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:42,610
and and remember after the glaciers

2461
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:46,090
melted back right there was native

2462
02:03:50,970 --> 02:03:48,010
copper just laying on the ground all

2463
02:03:53,430 --> 02:03:50,980
over the place up in our country here in

2464
02:03:55,770 --> 02:03:53,440
the Great Lakes region mm-hmm you know

2465
02:03:58,700 --> 02:03:55,780
and down into Greater Minnesota my god

2466
02:04:01,740 --> 02:03:58,710
I've got an 85 pound piece downstairs

2467
02:04:04,590 --> 02:04:01,750
that I got in a collection of agates

2468
02:04:07,290 --> 02:04:04,600
that I bought from a guy last year this

2469
02:04:09,899 --> 02:04:07,300
is an 85 pound piece of copper that that

2470
02:04:12,780 --> 02:04:09,909
was found down here southwest of the

2471
02:04:15,629 --> 02:04:12,790
Twin Cities in savage Minnesota mountain

2472
02:04:18,149 --> 02:04:15,639
savage in Carver Minnesota right along

2473
02:04:20,070 --> 02:04:18,159
the Minnesota River bottoms and the guy

2474
02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:20,080
I bought these agates from this copper

2475
02:04:25,109 --> 02:04:22,650
piece from worked in the gravel pit and

2476
02:04:26,729 --> 02:04:25,119
he used to sit on the belt and grab

2477
02:04:28,890 --> 02:04:26,739
agates and put them in buckets and

2478
02:04:32,580 --> 02:04:28,900
that's what I bought from him but he

2479
02:04:34,470 --> 02:04:32,590
told me he said this piece of copper he

2480
02:04:37,169 --> 02:04:34,480
said I didn't see it going up the belt

2481
02:04:39,780 --> 02:04:37,179
and it went up and it went down into the

2482
02:04:42,359 --> 02:04:39,790
crusher to crush the stuff down to you

2483
02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:42,369
know the size that they that they wanted

2484
02:04:48,689 --> 02:04:45,250
it down to it seized up the crusher it

2485
02:04:51,060 --> 02:04:48,699
just oh and it shut it down and you can

2486
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:51,070
see the teeth marks in this piece of

2487
02:04:57,689 --> 02:04:53,290
copper I got it downstairs it's

2488
02:05:00,209 --> 02:04:57,699
incredible so that copper that was that

2489
02:05:02,430 --> 02:05:00,219
the glaciers picked out from the you

2490
02:05:05,340 --> 02:05:02,440
know Isle Royale northern Minnesota

2491
02:05:07,859 --> 02:05:05,350
Upper Peninsula Michigan area following

2492
02:05:10,169 --> 02:05:07,869
the tract of lakes appeared down all the

2493
02:05:12,300 --> 02:05:10,179
way to just a few miles away from where

2494
02:05:14,820 --> 02:05:12,310
I live and I've gone around Minnesota

2495
02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:14,830
and I bought copper pieces from farmers

2496
02:05:19,169 --> 02:05:17,170
for years but that's the biggest one

2497
02:05:22,109 --> 02:05:19,179
I've ever seen and it shut down a

2498
02:05:26,550 --> 02:05:22,119
crusher how about that well okay you

2499
02:05:28,979 --> 02:05:26,560
you're the rock guy okay not Robert

2500
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:28,989
Plant is the rock guy too as well but

2501
02:05:37,919 --> 02:05:34,570
you're the real rock guy how how much

2502
02:05:41,729 --> 02:05:37,929
can you deface a piece of red granite

2503
02:05:42,779 --> 02:05:41,739
with a copper chisel how much headway do

2504
02:05:44,669 --> 02:05:42,789
you make

2505
02:05:47,910 --> 02:05:44,679
I don't know man that's going to be a

2506
02:05:50,339 --> 02:05:47,920
pecking technique so you're not going to

2507
02:05:52,620 --> 02:05:50,349
have well I shouldn't say this maybe

2508
02:05:55,439 --> 02:05:52,630
they developed a good technique but it's

2509
02:05:57,330 --> 02:05:55,449
going to be hard to make manageable cuts

2510
02:05:59,640 --> 02:05:57,340
into that rock and get the kind of

2511
02:06:01,649 --> 02:05:59,650
precision in detail that you see right

2512
02:06:03,569 --> 02:06:01,659
on these obelisks that's absolutely

2513
02:06:05,970 --> 02:06:03,579
incredible it almost looks like it's

2514
02:06:08,189 --> 02:06:05,980
mathematically you know you notice how

2515
02:06:11,459 --> 02:06:08,199
you have like the same symbol like let's

2516
02:06:14,700 --> 02:06:11,469
say it's a bird or an ankh or something

2517
02:06:17,250 --> 02:06:14,710
like that they're like perfect and you

2518
02:06:20,609 --> 02:06:17,260
look at another one and it's identical

2519
02:06:23,399 --> 02:06:20,619
it's not close or similar it's the same

2520
02:06:30,180 --> 02:06:23,409
right how the hell they do this I don't

2521
02:06:32,850 --> 02:06:30,190
know any decision and then I was at you

2522
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:32,860
know the met in New York is it's got one

2523
02:06:39,029 --> 02:06:35,650
of the great Egyptian wings on the

2524
02:06:40,919 --> 02:06:39,039
planet there's you know it's amazing and

2525
02:06:43,229 --> 02:06:40,929
one of the display cases

2526
02:06:48,509 --> 02:06:43,239
so we're Rita and I are walking through

2527
02:06:52,350 --> 02:06:48,519
and they have this tablet there and it

2528
02:06:54,750 --> 02:06:52,360
is carved I'm gonna say it's it's two

2529
02:06:58,740 --> 02:06:54,760
and a half feet tall maybe a foot and a

2530
02:07:01,669 --> 02:06:58,750
half wide round on the top totally

2531
02:07:07,700 --> 02:07:01,679
covered with these beautiful tiny

2532
02:07:15,419 --> 02:07:11,549
a diamond cutter and friggin Belgium

2533
02:07:18,060 --> 02:07:15,429
right it's just it looks like brand-new

2534
02:07:19,560 --> 02:07:18,070
right so Reid and I are standing there

2535
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:19,570
and we're looking at this and it's it's

2536
02:07:25,589 --> 02:07:23,050
red granite and there's a little card at

2537
02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:25,599
the bottom and it says this was carved

2538
02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:31,690
in 2400 BC with these tools right okay

2539
02:07:37,350 --> 02:07:34,090
now and right- so you're looking and

2540
02:07:40,919 --> 02:07:37,360
right next to it is this little copper

2541
02:07:43,799 --> 02:07:40,929
looks like a nail right little copper

2542
02:07:46,890 --> 02:07:43,809
nail and another one that looks like a

2543
02:07:49,890 --> 02:07:46,900
scalpel a little copper scalpel like a

2544
02:07:51,890 --> 02:07:49,900
little butter knife those two tools are

2545
02:07:56,600 --> 02:07:51,900
sitting there on top of a

2546
02:07:59,600 --> 02:07:56,610
leather pouch that these tools were kept

2547
02:08:03,229 --> 02:07:59,610
in and you look at those copper tools

2548
02:08:06,439 --> 02:08:03,239
right and you look at this tablet and it

2549
02:08:08,330 --> 02:08:06,449
says that they were found together right

2550
02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:08,340
and you're looking at the tool you're

2551
02:08:22,220 --> 02:08:18,830
there's just no way it's impossible I

2552
02:08:24,740 --> 02:08:22,230
don't even think that those that a it

2553
02:08:25,580 --> 02:08:24,750
would scratch the granite I don't

2554
02:08:28,850 --> 02:08:25,590
believe that

2555
02:08:31,580 --> 02:08:28,860
- wise it wouldn't it wouldn't know you

2556
02:08:32,890 --> 02:08:31,590
know and but but yet it's it's in a

2557
02:08:34,970 --> 02:08:32,900
display case

2558
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:34,980
thousands of people walk by it every

2559
02:08:42,970 --> 02:08:38,850
single day and that becomes their truth

2560
02:08:48,200 --> 02:08:42,980
it's it's in a museum it's at the Met

2561
02:08:50,570 --> 02:08:48,210
it's been vetted it's I just I just

2562
02:08:54,260 --> 02:08:50,580
don't buy it and as as somebody that

2563
02:08:57,680 --> 02:08:54,270
works with rock when you hear the you

2564
02:09:01,910 --> 02:08:57,690
know because we're talking about not not

2565
02:09:05,180 --> 02:09:01,920
the Iron Age but the Bronze Age right

2566
02:09:08,959 --> 02:09:05,190
where and the Copper Age where copper

2567
02:09:11,209 --> 02:09:08,969
was soft it was soft they the technology

2568
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:11,219
of getting it to the point where is even

2569
02:09:17,090 --> 02:09:14,730
usable over time didn't come till after

2570
02:09:18,590 --> 02:09:17,100
that and that's what they wanted to mix

2571
02:09:19,160 --> 02:09:18,600
it with something else to give it

2572
02:09:22,450 --> 02:09:19,170
strength

2573
02:09:25,100 --> 02:09:22,460
I mean native copper is very soft I mean

2574
02:09:27,229 --> 02:09:25,110
you can do you can take it you can pound

2575
02:09:31,490 --> 02:09:27,239
it on on something hard and it'll

2576
02:09:33,950 --> 02:09:31,500
flatten I mean it's it's soft and very

2577
02:09:37,340 --> 02:09:33,960
malleable as they say very very

2578
02:09:39,260 --> 02:09:37,350
malleable and the you would have to mix

2579
02:09:41,300 --> 02:09:39,270
it with in the beginning I could be

2580
02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:41,310
wrong here everybody just save the email

2581
02:09:45,649 --> 02:09:43,770
but I think it was like arsenic right

2582
02:09:48,110 --> 02:09:45,659
there was some something that the

2583
02:09:50,630 --> 02:09:48,120
attitude in the beginning and it kind of

2584
02:09:54,050 --> 02:09:50,640
you know change it but later they added

2585
02:09:55,850 --> 02:09:54,060
tin and then you had bronze but that was

2586
02:09:58,760 --> 02:09:55,860
technology that didn't happen for a

2587
02:10:02,030 --> 02:09:58,770
couple of hundred years after the

2588
02:10:04,010 --> 02:10:02,040
alleged dates of yeah bronze bronze age

2589
02:10:05,449 --> 02:10:04,020
went for quite a while that that was a

2590
02:10:08,779 --> 02:10:05,459
harder material

2591
02:10:12,469 --> 02:10:08,789
of course you get zinc and copper to

2592
02:10:14,750 --> 02:10:12,479
make brass and that's not a hell of a

2593
02:10:17,179 --> 02:10:14,760
lot harder but I just don't think that

2594
02:10:19,219 --> 02:10:17,189
that's what they you know what I think

2595
02:10:21,410 --> 02:10:19,229
that they were using diamond because if

2596
02:10:23,000 --> 02:10:21,420
you think about it Africa is where most

2597
02:10:25,699 --> 02:10:23,010
of the diamonds came from back in the

2598
02:10:28,819 --> 02:10:25,709
old world and it's not that well he'll

2599
02:10:30,739 --> 02:10:28,829
eat chips right there right so maybe

2600
02:10:34,669 --> 02:10:30,749
maybe they were using diamond maybe

2601
02:10:36,620 --> 02:10:34,679
these tools were used with diamond to

2602
02:10:39,109 --> 02:10:36,630
cut the things I mean I don't know how

2603
02:10:41,270 --> 02:10:39,119
they did it but I don't buy the copper

2604
02:10:44,589 --> 02:10:41,280
either no no way yeah and I have it and

2605
02:10:47,779 --> 02:10:44,599
I struggle with a bronze tool I'm

2606
02:10:50,689 --> 02:10:47,789
standing at the Met and and route of

2607
02:10:52,819 --> 02:10:50,699
time so I'm gonna say thank you but

2608
02:10:55,339 --> 02:10:52,829
really quickly standing at the Met they

2609
02:10:57,620 --> 02:10:55,349
have a bunch of sarcophagi that are

2610
02:11:03,500 --> 02:10:57,630
ginormous right and they had this one

2611
02:11:07,549 --> 02:11:03,510
from you know 2400 2300 be old right old

2612
02:11:10,489 --> 02:11:07,559
old old dynasty and it's black and it's

2613
02:11:14,540 --> 02:11:10,499
probably 20 feet long it's probably 8

2614
02:11:16,669 --> 02:11:14,550
feet wide with a lid on the top you know

2615
02:11:20,239 --> 02:11:16,679
it's standing like 6 feet tall as tall

2616
02:11:24,199 --> 02:11:20,249
as I am the lid is a foot thick for 2

2617
02:11:25,910 --> 02:11:24,209
feet thick of black granite and and I go

2618
02:11:27,830 --> 02:11:25,920
and I look on the inside of this thing

2619
02:11:30,439 --> 02:11:27,840
and it's completely covered with

2620
02:11:33,140 --> 02:11:30,449
precision and hieroglyphics yeah and

2621
02:11:41,239 --> 02:11:33,150
yeah and you knock on this thing and

2622
02:11:43,250 --> 02:11:41,249
it's like knocking on the ground how did

2623
02:11:47,569 --> 02:11:43,260
they move in how did they carve it how

2624
02:11:49,699 --> 02:11:47,579
to you know I just I don't understand I

2625
02:11:52,790 --> 02:11:49,709
really don't know what it is Jim here's

2626
02:11:55,310 --> 02:11:52,800
the bottom line I don't think we have a

2627
02:11:57,169 --> 02:11:55,320
clue the bottom line is there is we

2628
02:11:58,850 --> 02:11:57,179
don't have a clue how they did it we

2629
02:12:01,189 --> 02:11:58,860
have not figured it out yet

2630
02:12:03,799 --> 02:12:01,199
it's one of the great mysteries that it

2631
02:12:06,020 --> 02:12:03,809
still has yet to be solved and I think

2632
02:12:08,810 --> 02:12:06,030
that's super cool and you know what it's

2633
02:12:12,109 --> 02:12:08,820
ok we don't have to have all the answers

2634
02:12:13,790 --> 02:12:12,119
right now but you know what I guess the

2635
02:12:15,649 --> 02:12:13,800
problem I have is don't give me this

2636
02:12:18,859 --> 02:12:15,659
sunshine that just doesn't make any

2637
02:12:20,149 --> 02:12:18,869
sense and try to try to you know

2638
02:12:22,339 --> 02:12:20,159
that wouldn't buy me because I'm not

2639
02:12:24,679 --> 02:12:22,349
buying it and I don't buy it and I think

2640
02:12:26,689 --> 02:12:24,689
it's okay to say you don't know I wish

2641
02:12:28,669 --> 02:12:26,699
more people would say that and I get

2642
02:12:30,409 --> 02:12:28,679
people get mad at me sometimes on the

2643
02:12:32,569 --> 02:12:30,419
show when I say when we don't get an

2644
02:12:35,359 --> 02:12:32,579
answer sometimes the answer is you don't

2645
02:12:37,009 --> 02:12:35,369
know and if it is you need to say it and

2646
02:12:40,580 --> 02:12:37,019
this is one of those times

2647
02:12:43,750 --> 02:12:40,590
yeah I can tell you what it's not it's

2648
02:12:47,029 --> 02:12:43,760
not chicken bones and copper chisels

2649
02:12:49,219 --> 02:12:47,039
Scott thank you so much and safe travels

2650
02:12:52,549 --> 02:12:49,229
to the both of you we'll see you in

2651
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three short weeks yes I can't wait and

2652
02:12:57,529 --> 02:12:55,499
thanks for having me on here and you did

2653
02:12:59,149 --> 02:12:57,539
really good but you're not even close on

2654
02:13:01,369 --> 02:12:59,159
your guesses but that's okay you're

2655
02:13:02,929 --> 02:13:01,379
still a great guy and I love you I'll

2656
02:13:06,350 --> 02:13:02,939
get it out of the view with a couple

2657
02:13:08,629 --> 02:13:06,360
shots of vodka on February 7th sky ride

2658
02:13:11,359 --> 02:13:08,639
I'm a cheap date let's do it thank you

2659
02:13:15,469 --> 02:13:11,369
so much my friend all right Jim take

2660
02:13:18,139 --> 02:13:15,479
care of Scott Wolter again hooked x.com

2661
02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:18,149
very simple Scot Walters answers dot

2662
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blogspot both of the links are over at

2663
02:13:27,049 --> 02:13:24,510
Jimmy Church radio.com another great

2664
02:13:29,270 --> 02:13:27,059
conversation with Scott Wolter paid to

2665
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Black's executive producers ritika

2666
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Murray on shows produced by home Jay

2667
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Paul Rene Dennis and Bob announces our

2668
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Steve harder Jean Patou a mark d cove

2669
02:13:41,509 --> 02:13:38,280
our webmaster is drew the geek music

2670
02:13:44,330 --> 02:13:41,519
doug aldrich intros space boys space boy

2671
02:13:47,600 --> 02:13:44,340
music comm painted black is produced by

2672
02:13:50,869 --> 02:13:47,610
kjsurya yet work consideration is kgr a

2673
02:13:52,790 --> 02:13:50,879
the planet is broadcast on the copyright

2674
02:13:53,750 --> 02:13:52,800
of 2019 by fade to black in the game

2675
02:13:55,850 --> 02:13:53,760
change of network

2676
02:13:57,319 --> 02:13:55,860
it cannot be rebroadcast downloaded

2677
02:13:59,479 --> 02:13:57,329
copied or used anywhere in the known

2678
02:14:01,310 --> 02:13:59,489
universe without written permission from

2679
02:14:03,350 --> 02:14:01,320
fade to black or the game changer

2680
02:14:07,009 --> 02:14:03,360
network I'm Yours Timmy church tomorrow

2681
02:14:10,369 --> 02:14:07,019
night right here dr. daniel estulin the

2682
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Bilderberger group all night long until